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Squawk of the day - Sept. 27, 2011

If you haven't been offended in a while, watch the Dougherty High danceline. The parents of those girls should be ashamed.

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Somebody 2 years, 10 months ago

Just thinking about Dougherty High School makes me feel ashamed.

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21live 2 years, 10 months ago

Well please do yourself a favor and don't think about it!

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Patrick2K 2 years, 10 months ago

It's even worse because Dougherty High is the School of the Arts. I guess it's just Dougherty County's version of "art".

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Outtahere 2 years, 10 months ago

I agree!!! The worst part of it all is that the parents do know and they are okay with it!!!! AND THE SCHOOL STAFF!!! What a shame!!! What happened to showing our young girls to value their mind over their body????? I would love to keep track of how these young girls go about the rest of their lives. I would like to check back in say, five years to see how they are doing. Did they finish high school, attend college, have kids out of wedlock, etc.

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Somebody 2 years, 10 months ago

I'm betting they will end up on welfare, have kids out of wedlock and add to the problems of Albany.

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Momof3 2 years, 10 months ago

Maybe we should all write the Board of Education. I mean we have a right to go to games, take our younger children and for them to see a clean football game, band and dance line included. There is no reason or excuse for that and if they don't like it, quit. It's that simple.

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Local 2 years, 10 months ago

Write on !! The Board DOES need to know it is not acceptable. What is happening to our society. . . . Let your district representative hear from you today!!

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Momof3 2 years, 10 months ago

Well, my letter is sent! And I suggest that we all do the same because that is just uncalled for from young ladies at ANY high school here. It makes Dougherty Co and the school system look awful. Dr. Murfree's e-mail is :

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Citizen_A 2 years, 10 months ago

Someone told me that those girls supposedly take dance lessons....where from The Booty Studio? None of the respectble dance studios I know teach anything like I saw this past Saturday. And any studio in town that teaches these girls should be offended. I think it's a too vulgar for even a college dance line, let alone for a High School dance line.

I challenge Dr. Murphree to do something about this. Especially since His name is used in their introduction!!! I applaud Mr. Chunn for cleaning up Westover's auxilliary line. I will be writing my appeal to Dr. Murphree.

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ziva123 2 years, 10 months ago

I hope you get more response than I got from Terrell County Superintendent. Their band and dance line performed those same suggestive moves. I sent an email about 3 o 4 weeks ago and have yet to receive a reply.

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ALBANYGA1984 2 years, 10 months ago

MAYBE ITS ME BUT I THINK ALBANY IS SOOOO BACKWARDS.....PEOPLE ARE COMMENTING AS IF THESE YOUNG LADIES DO NOT HAVE FEELINGS. THEY ARE HUMAN BEINGS AND THEIR FEELINGS SHOULD BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION. PEOPLE ARE GETTING UPSET AND OUTRAGED BY A 5 MINUTE BAND PERFORMANCE WHEN THEY WATCH THE SAME EXACT THING ON "AMERICAS BEST DANCE CREW" OR ANY OTHER DANCE SHOW ON TELEVISION. TO ALL THE PEOPLE WHO ARE IN SUCH A FRENZY TO EMAIL DR. MURFREE, YOUR FOCUS DOES NOT NEED TO BE ON THESE DANCERS, BUT RATHER ON THE EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM AS A WHOLE. DID YOU EMAIL HIM WHEN DCSS DIDN'T MAKE AYP? OR WHEN YOU FOUND OUT THAT ABOUT 50 TEACHERS WERE GOING TO LOSE THEIR JOBS WITH THE CRCT SCANDAL? IF YOU ARE THAT CONCERNED ABOUT THE PERFORMANCE, GO THE THE CONSESSION STANDS DURING HALF TIME OR BETTER YET, DON'T GO THE THE GAMES AT ALL. MANY PEOPLE ENJOYED THE DOUGHERTY HIGH SCHOOL BAND AND THE DANCELINE. THOSE STUDENTS PUT MUCH TIME AND ENERGY INTO PRACTICE TO PERFORM FOR EVERYONE AND YOU DOG THEM AND CRITICIZE THEM. WHEN THE FOCUS COMES OFF OF EXTRACURRICULARS AND GOES INTO WHAT HAPPENS INSIDE THE CLASSROOM, THATS WHEN STUDENT TRULY GAIN SUCCESS. AS FAR AS WESTOVER GOES, YOU OBVIOUSLY DIDN'T READ THE PAPER. THEY WERE IN THE PAPER FOR BEING "RAUNCHY" AS WELL.

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Citizen_A 2 years, 10 months ago

I have a child who participates in another Dougherty County band, and he had no choice but to be there and watch that show. As for the feelings of those young women...is it okay to tell them that dance moves that put sexual thoughts into the minds of grown men is to be applauded? I will tell these young women, that yes they are beautiful, but you have more worth than to grind and thrust out on a football field. Yes, we should be embarassed that we have problems in our school system, but we shouldn't present a show that tells the public..."figures that they would come from Dougherty County". We should have a little more class than that.

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Patrick2K 2 years, 10 months ago

It is very odd that Westover's danceline was in the paper, since Westover does not have a danceline. They have a color guard that does pom-pom routines in the stands, nothing like the stripper moves of the Dougherty High danceline. We should be able to take our families to high school footballs games, and not have to run to the concession stand because the band is performing. I appreciate that amount of work that the danceline girls are putting in - it's too bad that no adult is guiding them to dance appropriately.

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Outtahere 2 years, 10 months ago

Your last words were " they were in the paper for being raunchy as well"! So that lets me know that you do think the dance routine is raunchy! And it is! So what if another school has the same issue!? I'm sure there was a lot of effort put in by these girls but the point everyone is trying to make is that some of the moves are too provocative for their age and for the audience in attendance. We are all worried about all the issues you speak of, including this one. They are beautiful girls - they just need to tone it down a bit - that's all.

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21live 2 years, 10 months ago

Thank you ALBANYGA1984!!!!!!!

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anonymoususer12 2 years, 10 months ago

Everyone is entitled to their own opinions and I'm sure that everyone has their own. But you must be so ashamed of yourselves...Look at the comments you are posting. To the girls on the line... How do you think they feel to read this?

This is high school, correct. But most girls on their line are seniors. Yes, high schoolers are looked at as still being children but in reality they are young, lady adults. You know absolutely NOTHING about their character or who they are. Every SIX of those young ladies have dreams and more talent that I'm sure ANY of you users have. I applaud the sponsor of these girls because he/she has trained them well. Yes, they do look like a college...but that is the whole point. That is simply preparation for the real deal, college dancelines. I know these ladies. Most of them are 17 & 18. In only a couple of more months...they WILL BE IN COLLEGE.

And as far as any of you know, Dougherty is A School Of Performing Arts. Dougherty is an overall black school and dancing is a part of our culture. You can't take that away from them. Their band is absolutely...amazing. A danceline and a band PERFORM and ENTERTAIN and thats EXACTLY what they did. And I must say...THEY DID IT WELL! So if YOU do not like what you see, don't come to a game. If you do, don't watch them. Eyes on the game. Because for every negative comment, there was over a thousand positive comment for each one. I applaud Dougherty's Dazzlin Dolls, their sponsor, their band, their uniforms, and their style.

You should change your mind set. Most people dont come to a game looking at dancers like that with negative thoughts in their minds. They are performers, entertainers, dancers. They come to see a show.

CONGRATULATIONS GIRLS, I LOVE YOU ALL BECAUSE YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY AMAZING AND CONTINUE TO DO WHAT YOU DO BEST!

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Citizen_A 2 years, 10 months ago

It's sad that you consider this sexually suggestive dancing cultural. Yes it may prepare them for a college danceline...but they are limiting themselves to a small percentage of dancelines. I've never seen UGA, Georgia Tech, FSU, U of A, Florida, Auburn, or Miami dancelines dance like this. You may be encouraging them to aim high...I say encourage them to aim higher. They may be 17 & 18, but does not make them adults. They rely on us adults to set the boundaries on what is appropriate.

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Patrick2K 2 years, 10 months ago

This isn't about the adults deciding what is appropriate for the girls to perform. It's about them deciding what is appropriate to view for the entire audience. This is a high school football game. It should all be appropriate for all ages. Dougherty's performance would be better suited for 18+, rather than a high school football game.

I didn't see the crowd reacting much to the field performance until the entire band did a split. Where was all the support for the Dougherty High danceline?

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Outtahere 2 years, 10 months ago

I am not ashamed of myself!!! I disagree with the provocativeness of the routine!! My opinion and I am proud!! And please don't think because they are on a dance squad and my opinion is that they are too risque that they now somehow have more talent and dreams than me!! Who are you to say that?? Do they preform well? Yes! Is it appropriate for High School? NO! And no, they won't be in college in a few months - try another year! Nuff said!

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footballwatcher 2 years, 10 months ago

The dance is actually taught at the school! It is a class that a teacher actually spend the day teaching the students!

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21live 2 years, 10 months ago

You are so INCORRECT and you are so showing your ignorance!

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Nyame1013 2 years, 10 months ago

If you havent noticed, Westover's new "flagline" sucks. Horribly. Westover wasnt even close to Dougherty, i must admit, but seriously: if you do not approve, do not watch. quite simple. You can watch television without watching what is offensive. If its offensive, DO NOT WATCH. These girls have to maintain some type of GPA and conduct to be on the danceline. If this is that important that you feel you need to write a letter, id advise you to get a life.

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Momof3 2 years, 10 months ago

"some type of GPA" .... hmmmmmm ....

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eguidry 2 years, 10 months ago

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. However, the manner in which these young ladies are being discussed is unacceptable. They are not the problem, clearly it is the adults. Everybody wants to be reactive, but lets be proactive. How many times have you volunteered your time to mentor a student DCHS, or any school for that matter. Furthermore, since we are in the business of writing letters; Where were your letters when we had one classroom set of science books? Where were your letters when my AP (Advance Placement) book did not have a front cover? Where were your letters when our band's brand new instruments were sent to the wrong school? Where were your letters when we could only make the news for a fight? Where were your letters of accolades all the years our band and chorale were requested around the world? I AM a former member of the DCHS danceline. I served as co-captain and captain. So, to your surprise, three years later, I am a Junior Mass Communications Major at FVSU with a 3.2 GPA, serving actively on my campus. Lesson to the ignorant people: Just because they dance does not mean they are worthless to society. If you are offended suggest that they clean up the dancing, but DO NOT insult their character or speak negatively on their futures. That is ignorant, immature, and savage.

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ALBANYGA1984 2 years, 10 months ago

WOW....THIS IS AMAZING....I AM SO PROUD TO SEE A FORMER ALUMNI OF DCHS SPEAK OF THE POSITIVE THINGS THAT EVERYONE FORGETS TO MENTION ABOUT DOUGHERTY HIGH. WE AS ADULTS MUST LEARN TO SEE THE GOOD IN OUR STUDENTS. WE ALWAYS REPORT THE NEGATIVE THINGS BUT THESE ARE SOME VERY SMART, TALENTED, AND LOVING STUDENTS. LET'S TRY TO ENCOURAGE THEM AND NOT BRING THEM DOWN WITH NEGATIVE THOUGHTS AN COMMENTS.

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Momof3 2 years, 10 months ago

I am too a graduate of Dougherty High School, Class of 91. I have a Masters in Special Education so I know first hand about the positive that comes out of ALL of the Dougherty county schools. My daughter attends Albany High (so I ALSO see negative about her school all the time and I know thats not true either) and is in the Honors Magnet Program and plans on having a career in the US Air Force when she graduates.My daughter patricipates also in sporting events so I am ALWAYS there to support her no matter what. And Dr. Shumate, the AHS Principal knows me by name because I make myself known to her and the teachers at AHS. Education is second in my house (because God is FIRST) as far as my kids go, so as far as me supporting my kids, I do that.

But the fact of the matter is 16 and 17 year old are not adults and that dancing is very adult. I have no doubt these girls will go on, if that is what they choose to do great things, just like you have chosen too. But there is nothing cultrual in that dancing whatsoever. All you have to do is turn on the TV to music videos and see the same kind of thing. Its not culture, its just what seems to be "the in thing to do right now".

When I was at DHS (and by the way, I loved every minute of it too), I marched in our band and participated in sports and we had fun without all of that uncessary stuff. I just wonder when did it all change? Do we just let KIDS do what they want for the sake of letting them have their way?

I pray that you go on after college to do wonderful things with your degree but like someone said, we all have opinions and this is just our. We have the right, just like you do, becausewe all pay taxes, to go to a game and enjoy it with our families without sexual things being pushed on us or in front of our younger children.

Signed, a PROUD graduate of Dougherty Comprehensive High School, Class of 91

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The_Dude 2 years, 10 months ago

Momof3 for poster of the year! Well said, ma'am.

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Terihdfxr 2 years, 9 months ago

Just goes to prove a point, Like Mother Like Daughter. I myself find it distusting especially at the Christmas parade. These girls wonder why some guys treat them like hussys, cuz they act like it. What ever happened to RESPECT ? I guess it went ayay with The Queen of Soul Aretha Franklin.

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ALBANYGA1984 2 years, 10 months ago

TO ZIVA123: I'M SURE THAT THE SUPERINTENDENT HAS SO MANY MORE IMPORTANT ISSUES TO HANDLE, THAT ACTUALLY REQUIRES IMMEDIATE ATTENTION SUCH AS SCHOOL FUNDING, AYP,AND RAISING TEST SCORES, RATHER THAN A DANCE MOVE THAT YOU HAVE AN OPINION ABOUT BEING OVERLY SUGGESTIVE. IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT THE SOLUTION IS SIMPLE-DON'T GO!

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Momof3 2 years, 10 months ago

As Superintendent, his job is ALL of that unfoutunately. He is entursted to handle the school system, period. And the answer is not a simple, DO NOT GO.. especially if you have children that also perform or play those sports and you go to support them.

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ziva123 2 years, 10 months ago

My point was simply that simulating sex is too suggestive for a family event. The Superintendent SHOULD be conerned with the image these students are presenting to the attendees of football games. I agree with most others that these students are extremely talented, but that they should keep the dance moves G rated. I believe that encouraging this type of suggestive behavior will lead to more teen pregnancies which causes more students not to graduate. Those who do not graduate high school earn significantly less money than those who do graduate; it is a vicious cycle and we must find a way to stop it.

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Somebody 2 years, 10 months ago

They will end up on welfare, plain and simple.

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Momof3 2 years, 10 months ago

I don't think dancing has anything to do with whether or not they will end up on welfare so that is not a fair statement. It's just a matter of having some form of respect for yourself and others. The girls are beautiful, no doubt about that, but you don't have to exploit that by doing those kinds of dances.

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21live 2 years, 10 months ago

@Somebody...where have you ended? You are simply unbelievable!!!

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Momof3 2 years, 10 months ago

And the fact is, we all will never agree and that's OK. God made us all differnt for a reason. MY interest is, has been, and will always be for the best interest for the kids because I have children in this school system. We don't have the best reputation, people talk, they make us look bad in the media so for that reason, if nothing else... we all need to TRY to show Albany, DoCo and the surrounding cities we have are NOT what they see on the news, not everything in Albany is welfare, and children out of wedlock and crime. We have good kids, no GREAT kids coming out of the Dougherty County Shcool System. And if something is not in the best interest of that, then leave it alone.

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anonymoususer12 2 years, 10 months ago

To Citizen-A....You don't seem very educated about college dancing...at all. Have you ever watched most of the top HBCU college dancelines? Like I said, what they do is not limiting them to the types of dancelines they choose to be on. Yes, classes are taught at Dougherty High which all include lyrical, ballet, pointe, hip-hop, and jazz. So, if ANY of these girls decided to try out for a particular danceline, they have the capability, training, and TECHNIQUE to do so for ANY TYPE OF DANCING. Because they are majority African-American, their type of dancing they do is more aimed toward HBCU type dancing such as Albany State Passionettes, Jackson State Jsettes, Alabama State Stingettes, And Clark Atlanta's Danceline because those are they colleges of choice that they choose to dance for. But if they wanted to try out for a more (boring) type of dance, I'm more than positive than any one of them can do so. That Is All.

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Citizen_A 2 years, 10 months ago

You may be correct about HBCU's. I will give you that. But, what if they want to go to any of those other colleges I mentioned, who are not majority African American? Seems to me they are focusing a little too much on a particular dance style, and not on the others you mentioned.

I do know some about dance. I have a child who has taken dance for 9 years. I have never seen any of the moves done on that field from any dancer at her studio. I love to watch dance, and have seen some of the hip-hop groups, lyrical, and all other types of dance that is out there. Some of the African American ballets are some of the most beautiful I have ever seen, but to compare them to what was on that field would be just wrong.

Seems to me that to keep throwing the "majority African American" out there is going against everything that those before us strove for. I don't think that the right to dance that way on a football field was what they intended. And it only distances us and perpetuates negative sterotypes. We've already seen the comment "these girls will wind up on welfare". Negative and untrue as that is, it did come to someone's mind when they saw these girls.

Everyone seems to be missing the point...comon sense and decency. I have seen plenty of entertainment that was clean and not BORING. If that type of dancing is the alternative to boring...I'll take boring.

I think we should be teaching these girls, who work so hard, that they are worth more than what they are showing. If you are a God-fearing person, ask yourself, would let these teenage girls dance like that if Christ were sitting in front of them? I think if their instructors were told that the girls were set to perform for him, that routine would not be the one chosen. Should we not be given the same?

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ALBANYGA1984 2 years, 10 months ago

So because YOU feel something was wrong (which clearly is an opinion), what about the tons of fans and supporters of the performance? So what makes what you say correct? Many of the people commenting, who claim to be so educated are clearly uneducated especially about dance. Please learn about ALL styles of dance before criticizing.

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Citizen_A 2 years, 10 months ago

Yes, there countless styles of dance out there. Some of the most beautiful dances out there are very sensual in nature. The tango for instance...it's not vulgar, but if you really know about the dance and what it implys, you know it is definitely not appropriate to be performed by all ages. It would be unseemly for a 14 year old couple to perform. Even some of the lyrical and modern dances are beautiful, but not appropriate for a teen to perform. I think that is what you are missing from the comments. Not that it is wrong, per say, but inappropriate for teen dancers, and all audiences viewing it. A high school football game should not have to have age ratings like the movies.

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billybob 2 years, 10 months ago

Have none of you ever seen black girls dance? This is like being shocked at seeing a redneck two-step or a guido fist-pump. It's what they do.

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anonymoususer12 2 years, 10 months ago

I'm not here to argue, just simply to defend. You're right. But you might've missed when I said "whatever type of danceline they choose to be on, they have the capability, training, and technique." Doing what they do is more complicated and technical than you think. Technique in ballet is important to their fieldshow. Some of these girls have been taking ballet since they were young. So if they decided to do a different style of dancing, I have no doubt in my mind that they could make it. BUT to attend an HBCU and dance on one of those dancelines may be their dream, their goal...and I know that it is. That was the goal. That is why they perform to be more collegic. Dougherty is one of the best dancelines Albany,GA has and there are girls wishing to be one of those six. Aim higher? They have the highest aim of all of all schools because what they do is so much more different and rigorous.

And to the SOMEBODY makin comments of welfare and kids out of wedlock? Excuse me, but you are so highly ignorant. Dancing has NOTHING to do with that. I bet it would just blow your mind to know that every six of those girls take AP classes and are placed in the IB program at Dougherty. Not to mention, all of their GPA's are 3.3's and higher. So, consider your mind officially BLOWN because they are. If That is all you have to say your ignorant comments are not needed. If you have nothing to say but negative comments about a couple of high school girls dancing...you need a lesson in time management and find other ways to pass your time.

And once again, if you do not like what you see...please do not attend a game. Go to something a little bit more in your ball park. But if you came to see a real ENTERTAINING PERFORMANCE, you know where it is.

But honestly, I'm writing because I'm just highly disappointed in the way you are talkin about these girls. You are grown. There are more ways to say what you have to say without saying it in that way. These girls read these things and its hurtful. Just watch what you say. Say what you have to say, but be grown about it.

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bany_baby 2 years, 10 months ago

Ok I have been reading over the comments for some time now and tried not to say anything but I can't help it. I agree with those who say be careful how you say things because they often times can be taken personal and these are young girls who have feelings. That leads me to my next point.

These are young ladies. I saw their show and it was very "grown" and could have been disrespectful to some that were there. One can not simply tell people to not come to a game because we're going to dance anyway we want to. That's not a fair option. As young ladies and even the women who think its ok for young ladies to put on a show like they did, you always want to be respectful in how you do things. Some things can be tamed down in such a way that its not offensive and EVERYBODY can enjoy the show.

To the young ladies, you guys are awesome dancers and I'm sure very intelligent students. I also believe that it maybe considered fun or "crunk" to dance like you did. I've always admired DCHS dance line. At some point, and I guess this is more so to the adults involved, a line has to be drawn somewhere. Have fun! Dance! But some things can be tamed so that everybody who is there (and most people have to be for some reason or another) can enjoy the show.

All in all, the young ladies are very talented and I'm sure they enjoy dancing. Some of the dancing can and should be tamed out of respect for the public and yourselves. You can not please everyone, however, you want to be mindful and do things in such a way that it does not become offensive. To the grown ups who know and work these young ladies, I understand your defense of them and it is normal. However, be open minded about some of the comments and suggestions on here. The welfare and other ignorant comments just shows lack of character or sense and should be ignored because replying to foolishness like that is replying to a mindset and not a person. Which in the end, won't be changed on this site. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK LADIES AND BE ENCOURAGED.

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twocentsworth 2 years, 10 months ago

Hey! I've got a question no one has asked yet...if this dance style is an African American cultural thing, what about the other cultural groups out there? Are they completely pushed out of the equation? Hmmmm..... may explain the divisive relations that plague our community.

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Clyde 2 years, 9 months ago

I'd bet $2 that everyone of these adults complaining about the girls dance watch "Grinding with the Stars" every night it comes on. What's the difference? Sound like a bunch of hypocrites to me. It's the world, especially the media in movies, tv shows and commercials, it's in the music on the radio and in magazines. How can anyone expect the youth these days to act in anyway differently? They would be laughed at and made fun of if they acted differently than what we see on the mainstream media. Everyone over the age of 25 is to blame for letting the world get this way. We are all to blame for allowing it to continue. So quit your complaining on here and if you really want to clean up the world get off the couch and vote, make the effort to go to your city/town meetings, contact every one of your local, state and federal politicians and make a stand!

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Citizen_A 2 years, 9 months ago

I'll take that $2 sir...don't watch it. And I did write my letter to the superintendent. Which unfortunately is not an elected official. I voted for the school, and none of my candidates were elected...will keep trying though...

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Outtahere 2 years, 9 months ago

OMG! I told myself that I would not comment again but after I read this nonsense I couldn't stay quiet!! Seriously, I don't know where to start! Your mentality is EXACTLY what is wrong with today's society!! First of all, the contestants on Dancing with the stars are all ADULTS!!!!!!!!!!! The girls we are discussing in this post are MINORS!!!!!!!!! "How can we expect the youth to act different?" ARE YOU KIDDING ME!!! Our youth does not have to see all the crap in the media, if we are doing our job as parents and shielding them from that stuff. Will they see some of it, yes, but it still my job non the less!!! And if you truly believe we are all to blame then how could you honestly say it is ok for young girls to act sexually provacitive? Your contridict yourself!!!! Maybe you shouldn't comment from now on!!!

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