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Squawk of the Day - August 2, 2012

"Funding for libraries is more important than funding for the RiverQuarium or Albany Civil Rights Museum."

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Abytaxpayer 2 years ago

If you don't use it you will lose it.......Oops forgot were we talking about Albany's Monuments to how Politician’s love to waste Tax Money.

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Sister_Ruby 2 years ago

Funding for "Use of Libraries" that is...checking out books, reading books, writing papers based on reading of books, achieving Good Grades on Papers written after reading of books..." yes! That's what Libraries (funded by Public Tax-Based Funding) are For!!

If not.............if for other purpose..............well they should be shut down.

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FryarTuk 2 years ago

Of course funding for libraries is a higher priority than funding for the Riverquarium and Civil Rights Museum. In the first place it is illegal for the city or county to give tax money to either the mud puddle or the liars' den since both are non-profit organizations and laws expressly forbid it. But never mind that doesn't matter. Both are just absolute jokes. Make the mud puddle part of Chehaw parks and eliminate the administrative structure. As for the civil rights museum perhaps ASU would take it over. I don't know why though. There has been such a distortion of the civil rights movement's history in Albany that it has dubious value as a museum.

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waltspecht 2 years ago

As long as the libraries are libraries and not internet cafes, then fine. However since the computer access now seems to be the main reason for their existance, I for one doubt the need for many of them. Has there ever been a study to show just how many books are actually read in the library anymore?

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Nonsporting 2 years ago

Bring back the Bookmobile!

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FlunkyMonkey 2 years ago

AMEN--I have been taking that position since this first hit the news...

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Hoodie 2 years ago

Riverquarium-Chehaw-Libraries-Paving Streets-New Garbage Cans-Retying My Shoelaces-Anything-Civil Rights Museum Funding in that order......

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chinaberry25 2 years ago

I disagree! Only 5% of the people use a library in one year. They just want the free computers. Along with this comes noise, free baby sitting and a bar to drink coffee. These things do not need to be in a library. I was in Columbus' library this past week and was amazingly surprised. I was talking softly to a man in genealogy and was hushed up. Albany's is like grand central station with 5 kids in tow. Without the computers it would be a morgue. If you want to see what a true library is like, head up to Columbus.

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whattheheck 2 years ago

And if you want to see a city with a future, head up to Columbus. Let's don't forget about the DVD business libraries are in as well as providing a day shelter for the homeless at the downtown facility.

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jglass 2 years ago

I agree with the comments. If the libraries are used for the right purposes, then they need to stay open. If they are only used for computer purposes, then no. I imagine they have already determined what these libraries are used for so that is why the doors are being closed.

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Progressive 2 years ago

Fact = both of the closed libraries were low useage facilities. They needed to be closed during these low dollar economic conditions. The library chairman should be commended for taking action to reduce expenses, and not chastized by County Commissioner Hayes. I have said several times, if these 2 libraries were so critical, then let the clergy and people whining about them find the funds to keep them open (only about $400,000). Otherwise, stop asking others to fund them for you. Also, it seems the complaint is that they are taking away a library convenience for those in the more low income areas. If this is really the case (which is more like we want the free Internet services), then why have they not been complaining about the lack of libraries in the southern part of the county. Busted!

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whattheheck 2 years ago

When a local black minister tells the DoCo Commission putting a cop in each of the closed branches will increase utilization, it becomes apparent we have a problem well beyond the norm. The right decision has already been made, don't dig up the corpses and try to breathe life into them. Interviews on TV with the few patrons that could be found showed that using the computers for email and surfing the web was what they were interested in.

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1d2ec 2 years ago

Reopen the libraries for 6 months without the computers then reevaluate.

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sue 2 years ago

You know, I realize that the Squawk is a fact-free zone, but let me drop one on you anyway: the COUNTY funds the COUNTY Library & is virtually the only funding source. The Civil Rights Museum & the Riverquarium are asking the CITY to help them through some bad patches due to hard economic times. The Library will need PERMANENT solutions, the Civil Rights Museum & Riverquarium will hopefully be TEMPORARY. You're entitled to your own opinions but not to your own facts.

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erudite 2 years ago

Is there space in any one of the libraries to make a computer room? Some users are in somewhat of a bind. Now I do not know how many or if any but some may be using the computer access to complete college courses so that they earn a degree, and get a job? Or, are people using the units for "social networks", porn, and/or e-mail?

Many new 'publications' are only online in an attempt to make those tomes accessible. bartleby.com has several classics available for free online; in some instances, the local libraries only have one copy and it may be at a different branch. In others, the tome may not be available at all locally.

I NEVER want to see a library close; it is tantamount to making a pile of books and lighting the match.

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darnette0101 2 years ago

What about the people who use the library's computers to find jobs? Not everyone has internet at home. At one particular time my husband used the library every day to look for work. It's using it that he found about a lot of jobs. And the job he found, was through a friend that was at the library also.

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bigbob 2 years ago

To find jobs, good one. hahaha. Go to GDOL they have rooms full of computers.

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whattheheck 2 years ago

The Labor Dept and Goodwill employment center, as well as the other library branches, all have computers for such use. Perhaps not as convenient but such is life.

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agirl_25 2 years ago

How many of you contributing here about this have used an Internet Cafe or public library computer? I have on many occasions because I travel a lot overseas and it is an excellent way for me to keep in touch with my family back home, transfer funds while traveling when I find I may come up short in my debit account, change reservations, etc. I find that the PCs in the libraries and the Internet Cafes have programs blocking idle chat rooms and porn pages as some have mentioned. I don't even know if they could access a social networking site such as Facebook on a public PC. The one good thing, in my opinion, about the PCs in the library and seeing the people on them, especially the kids, is the fact they are actually READING!!!!!!!

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erudite 2 years ago

I have used public libraries in different states and countries to access e-mail, etc. Much, much cheaper than telephoning!! And, agirl, you are right, for some kids, this may be the ONLY access they have to printed material!!

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FryarTuk 2 years ago

I did not intend to criticize the libarary board above. I really think they were doing their jobs and had limited choices. I support them. My response was just addressing the squawkers options of either libraries or RQ.CRM. As a kid weekly trips to the Andrew Carnegie Library was de rigueur. It was the first place I was allowed to ride my bike to alone and is a warm memory. Nothing wrong with internet use though quiet and decorum should be order of the day. I am 100% opposed to city/county funding of RQ and CRM even if they have to close them. As for their being temporary allocations, well, if Pinnochio said that his nose would have grown considerably. Cut 'em loose!

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agirl_25 2 years ago

I do believe the money would be better spent on the library than the CRM tho...I just can't imagine the kids enjoying an afternoon soaking up the information that the CRM has to offer or that the RQ has either. Sorry, but I call 'em as I see 'em.

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Progressive 2 years ago

It seems some of you are letting your emotions get in the way of reasoning. If the money is available, I think all would be in agreement to keep the libraries open and available for reading, Internet, and improving ones mind. However, when library funds are cut (By the State), hard choices must be made. If funds are cut in your own home circumstances, do you continue to spend for non-critical and non-essential services? Or do you make hard choices on how best to spend your funds? Do you buy a car for your neighbor just because they do not have one, or is this another choice that you make to control your own expenses? Just trying to shed some common sense reasoning on a subject that has different perspectives.

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Cartman 2 years ago

I agree with this squawk. But then, I think that buying wheel weights for the animal control truck is more important than the Riverquarium and the Civil Rights Museum.

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agirl_25 2 years ago

You made my iced tea come out my nose when I read that.....tsk tsk...shame shame. Ya caught me off guard......hahahahaha.

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Bubbavet_rureel 2 years ago

Wow.

This is news: Former Omega chief convicted of beating suspect

Back to the issue, leave the poor areas be, keep them in the library and off the streets.

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TheMember 2 years ago

Anybody notice, coachjohnson42 has not commented since the libraries were closed?

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Cartman 2 years ago

Maybe his turn came up in the tribunals.

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MRKIA 2 years ago

HE'S LOCKED INSIDE THE SOUTHSIDE LIBRARY BUT THE COMPUTERS ARE OFF.

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LoneCycler 2 years ago

It's summer and football practice at every high school in Geogia has begun. He's probably also smarting from the recent election losses and is much too angry to respond to anyone about anything right now. I doubt he's gone for good.

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Dino58 2 years ago

Maybe he got tired of arguing with a bunch of racist hicks.

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agirl_25 2 years ago

I don't know....I don't recall ever seeing you 2 arguing over anything, Dino58.

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LoneCycler 2 years ago

It's clear there is now an opportunity in Albany (or some parts of Albany) for some smart business person to open up an Internet Cafe. We've had a few of them before, but they always turn out to be ill disguised establishments for illegal gambling and they get shut down by the police, or else they don't make enough money due to competition from the free public libraries and go out of business. Not having internet access is just like not having a car. You might as well find a nice spot under the Broad Avenue bridge downtown and live there instead. We've got all kinds of affordable used car dealerships, why doesn't one of them step up and establish affordable internet access too?

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chinaberry25 2 years ago

Folks are not going to spend money in Albany. They are too cheap, gotta save for fingernails, foiled hair and Coach purses.

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agirl_25 2 years ago

I don't know about the foiled hair of the fingernails...UGH...but I do like the Coach purses...have a shelf full of them but don't pay the full price...get them from the factory....pay only $97.30 for the $328.00 24CM SIGNATURE DUFFLE.....love it because of the roominess of it. Who in their right mind would pay $328.00 for a purse but then some would say who would pay $97.30 for one......me of course!! But yeah, you are right..I won't spend money in Albany..I will not shop in Albany at all..... LoneCycler is correct of course, you might as well find a nice spot under a bridge, if you can. Is there such a spot?

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