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Squawk of the Day - August 23, 2012

"As I ride around the city, I am appalled at how some of us live. At some of the houses along West Lincoln, West Highland and West Whitney, there is more house furniture in the front yards than in the houses. Is there an ordinance against this? There should be."

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VSU 1 year, 7 months ago

A) Are the families getting so large that they all can't fit in the house, so some are having to expand their living quarters outdoors? B) Or do they have no AC and living outside because it is cooler outside than inside? C) or is this typical Albany and you couldn't expect any different?

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chinaberry25 1 year, 7 months ago

It is typical Albany. The priorities have sifted. All is important is a cell phone, car, nails and babies drawing welfare. Never thought I would see Albany or the USA for that matter become what it is. It is Socialism at its finest. But what the Socialists never say is someone has to pay the bills. Better enjoy it while it lasts. Look at the Soviet Union for an example. It does not work.

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waltspecht 1 year, 7 months ago

It's their home, they should be free to live as they see fit. You and the Government (code Enforcement) need to stay out of folks lives unless they are endangering themselves or other Citizens.

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tduncanspradley 1 year, 7 months ago

exactly, is their not more important things to worry about. You just worry about your home or better yet you go lend a helping hand instead of sqwaking about it

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TrixibelleBento 1 year, 7 months ago

Let's see you live next door to them. I live in the duplexes in St. Andrews which used to be a nice pleasant neighborhood. Now the grass doesn't get cut, multiple families live in a single unit, cars litter the front yards, trash cans litter the sides of the road, and small children play in the street with no adult supervision. It's turned into the ghetto. Trying to find another place to move to that's not so dumpy, but I'm having problems finding a decent neighborhood.

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rightasrain 1 year, 7 months ago

We moved out of St. Andrews for that very reason. Not to mention the drug deals that would take place in the street late a night; as the old adage says, "You can take some people out of the Ghetto, but you can't take the Ghetto out of some people." They left the Ghetto's of the big cities and were drawn to the Ghetto state of Georgia; Albany being the Ghetto capitol.

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MRKIA 1 year, 7 months ago

SOME ARE NOT HOMES, BUT FILTHY HELLHOLES.

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bubbavet 1 year, 7 months ago

Walt, I think you spoke before you thought about this one.

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waltspecht 1 year, 7 months ago

No, not really. I just don't like Government intrusion into our lives. This type of Code is to benefit the Property Owners, it doesn't have anything to do with safety and health. I don't like seatbelt rules, I don't like wearing helmets. I don't like having to pay to have my trash hauled off. I did it myself for years. So that's where I come from.

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Mr_Heatmiser 1 year, 7 months ago

Walt, how they keep the inside of their homes is their business, but how they keep the outside of their homes is everybody's business.

Not only is it unattractive to look at, it greatly decreases the neighboring property values. So, while it might not be "endangering" anyone (unless it's a source of rodent infestation, which is a very real possibility), it is affecting others negatively.

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tduncanspradley 1 year, 7 months ago

well if you do not like how it looks go help them clean it uo lend a helping hand. The property value is not high anyway,plus, property value only raise your house taxes. why you are worrying about how their house look maybe you should look to the root of the problem that is a drug and prostitue area do something to help them while you are onlie sqwaking about it. Take initiative and make a real difference. I am sure you won't do anything but sit online and go back and forth. Geez, get a life ppl while you are sitting trying to look down on ppl, just thank God your situation is not that bad. You do not know what their struggle is. Some ppl face real life issues everyday that you can not even imagine or would not be strong enough to live through. So before you try to look down lend a hand up while doing so.

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Mr_Heatmiser 1 year, 7 months ago

well if you do not like how it looks go help them clean it uo lend a helping hand.

No, I don't think I will walk into a stranger's yard and offer to haul away their fetid rat-infested moldy furniture. Instead, I might suggest that they just drag it progressively closer to the smoldering burn pile they keep going 24/7.

The property value is not high anyway,plus, property value only raise your house taxes.

Did you really just say that? That's like saying you don't care if somebody steals your air conditioner because it just makes your electric bills higher.

why you are worrying about how their house look maybe you should look to the root of the problem that is a drug and prostitue area do something to help them while you are onlie sqwaking about it.

Again, no. Not really interested in helping druggies or prostitutes. I just want people to clean up their crappy yards so I don't have to look at them.

Take initiative and make a real difference. I am sure you won't do anything but sit online and go back and forth.

I do take initiative and make a difference. The initiative I take is to call code enforcement and file complaints.

Geez, get a life ppl while you are sitting trying to look down on ppl, just thank God your situation is not that bad. You do not know what their struggle is. Some ppl face real life issues everyday that you can not even imagine or would not be strong enough to live through. So before you try to look down lend a hand up while doing so.

What in the world sort of "real life issues" could possibly be legitimate reason for someone to keep a couch in his front yard, other than being low-bred and inconsiderate of his neighbors and community. I'm not looking down on anyone for being poor, and I appreciated that many people face struggles. However, I am also aware that most of them do so without trashing up their neighborhoods.

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VSU 1 year, 7 months ago

Right on Mr Heatmiser and these same people will complain about Albany needing to be cleaned up so that it is not an eyesore. I live in a pretty good neighborhood where everybody keeps their yards cut and clean and I would complain if people started putting their furniture outside.

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TheMember 1 year, 7 months ago

I live in an older well kept neighborhood, a family moved in down the street, not sure how extended the family goes. Everything is nice, then they move in, cars are parked all over the yard and low and behold he parks his semi-truck out front. Walt, I am not sure who you are trying to impress with that statement, but obviously you live in a secluded area. Just ride down Stuart and look at all the fancy paint jobs on the houses and guess who occupies them. No pride in their house, just their 22's

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B4it 1 year, 7 months ago

This is a product of parents not teaching their kids, generation after generation, not to take pride in the way they maintain their property, and the way they present themselves in public (e.g. - low-rider pants). I have seen too many neighborhoods go from being well kept, to looking like no one cares. The bums move in because the neighborhood was well kept, and then the newcomers trash their place, fail to keep the yards looking nice, and fail to make repairs that are needed. Do not tell me it is because of their economic situation. If they could afford to move into a nice neighborhood, they should take PRIDE in keeping it looking nice.

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PatrickY2K 1 year, 7 months ago

"...not teaching their kids not to take pride..." Huh?

Are you saying there are no economic conditions which could cause someone to ignore their yards? The lawnmower can't break? It doesn't need gas? Someone is scraping to get enough money for food, so mowing the lawn moves down the list of priorities?

This is a silly squawk, picked to create traffic to the website (thank you for the day off from bashing Obama, entitlements, and the DCSS). Everyone is welcome to post their speeches stating the obvious, but at least make a good argument - economic conditions MAY play a part in ignoring the yard.

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VSU 1 year, 7 months ago

Some people don't rake their yards, i suppose their rake is broken as well and I know you are not going to say their rake ran out of gas.

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tduncanspradley 1 year, 7 months ago

well if their yad need raking why not do it for them i am sure they will not mind

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VSU 1 year, 7 months ago

I'm not doing their lazy work for them. Why don't you clean it up? I have my own yard to take care of.

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tywebb 1 year, 7 months ago

ignoring the yard is one thing......having a full dining room and living room set in the yard is totally different. if they can afford to buy all of that furniture, then they can afford to cut the grass, too.

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tduncanspradley 1 year, 7 months ago

how do you know the furniture was not donated to them

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tywebb 1 year, 7 months ago

good point. i don't. it's all just speculation

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B4it 1 year, 7 months ago

Y2K - Sorry for the double negative - thanks for the catch. However, the rest of your points are only excuses for not taking and showing PRIDE. I am not talking about a short period of time when equipment fails, and your insinuation of this demonstrates your low level of understanding the issues.

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tduncanspradley 1 year, 7 months ago

THANK YOU SO much at least someone else feels me. These ppl dont not realize that there are real issues. I remember when my mom and I use to have furniture on our lawn bc her husband became addicted to drugs we came home he had stolen her money, pawned some of the furniture, and we were stuck outside we had no where to go so we stayed there for about 2 weeks. No food or anything except when I went to school and when she went to work. You never know someones struggle. mowing a yard or children playing in the road is not life or death and it has nothing to do with how a person was raised. You ppl rweally need to get a life and maybe lend a helping hand instead of saying something is ghetto bc the yard is not mowed and the children are playing in the road.

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agirl_25 1 year, 7 months ago

I hope things worked out for you....must have been a terrible situation and yes, you are correct...I have no idea what your life was like during those times....it surely must have been hell.

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B4it 1 year, 7 months ago

Just to be clear, understand there is a difference between living in extreme poverty, and for those who can afford to move into a well kept neighborhood. Then, due to a lack of PRIDE, they fail to keep their property up to the previous standards that attracked them to make the purchase. For those who have endured hardships due to financial and family drug issues, I hope you have overcome them to show your children the proper way to live.

For those who are too lazy to work, and too lazy to maintain their property, then the saying goes, give a person a fish and they eat for a day, teach a person to fish and they eat for a life time. Too many are just looking for someone to give them the cooked fish.

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alleebrin 1 year, 7 months ago

Or a matter of social prominence! lol

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MRKIA 1 year, 7 months ago

I'VE SEEN A LOT OF PROPERTIES AROUND ALBANY IN THE CONDITION DESCRIBED BY THE SQUAWKER. SOFAS AND RECLINERS IN THE FRONT YARD, BROKEN DOWN CARS JACKED UP IN THE YARD, 55 GALLON BURN BARRELS AND YOU CAN USUALLY SPOT A HUGE CLEAR PLASTIC BAG FULL OF BEER CANS TO BE RECYCLED FOR MORE BEER AND CIGARETTES. USUALLY THERE IS NO GRASS, JUST A DIRT YARD. DON'T BLAME THIS ON ECONOMICS, THIS IS JUST PLAIN OLD FILTHY AND SORRY. THERES MONEY(ON THE 1ST) FOR WEAVE, NAILS, BEER, RIMS, CELLPHONES, TATOO'S.

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Amazed2 1 year, 7 months ago

Yea its due to economics im sure They drag de couch and chairs out in de yard cause they got to many kids on welfare they all cant fit in de house at de same time. Maybe Obama can build bigger houses ands fix dis too.

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agirl_25 1 year, 7 months ago

I suppose I sound like the wicked witch of the west when I say I am thrilled to be out in the woods away from everyone with not a neighbor in sight, huh? I may be a grump but at least I don't have to put up with the things most have to put up with. I had to put up with it for over 20 years so I paid my dues and now it is my happy time. I do have a lot of sympathy for you, Trixi, as I once lived in a duplex while waiting for housing on base and it was torture and I swore it was the last time. It took Civil Engineering a month to get our quarters ready and it was just as you described it...kids playing with no supervision, trash cans knocked over with trash spilled and blowing all over, it was total chaos. Now I am smack dab in the middle of the woods and you need a map or a good GPS to find me.... I love it.

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Amazed2 1 year, 7 months ago

I think the front yard living room is an old Southern black thing not necessarily economics. About 3 yrs ago a family moved into a nice $200,000 house on Winfred Road. Had a nice backyard too. Well first thing they did was they set up a front yard living room complete with chairs, table and a couch Now I dont know if they bought the house or leased it but the house was empty within a few months. Probably I guess some would consider this economic related too. My guess is they stopped paying the payments.anyway I figured it was a family tradition to drsg the furniture out in the front yard.

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agirl_25 1 year, 7 months ago

Could they have just been squatters? It is amazing how many people actually do that and no one is aware they are doing it. They drive up to a house and next thing you know they are living there and in a few weeks or months they are gone. My sister lives in Toledo, well a suburb, and she said you see that a lot there in the spring and summer in her area. There have been a lot of layoffs in the auto industry and a lot of nice houses just sitting there. A van will pull up and a family will jump out and next thing you know they will set up house keeping, lots of cookouts and then soon they will poof. Yup...squatters. No need for heat because it is warm spring or summer and most of the houses have the current on so there is running water.

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tduncanspradley 1 year, 7 months ago

this has nothing to do with being black i am black and i see just as many whites white furniture in the yard of their trailer. So lets not make it a white or black thing. You are clearly igorant

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VSU 1 year, 7 months ago

So now furniture is white if a white person owns it and furniture is black if a black person owns it and you are here saying not to make it a black/white thing?

Picture this.....Using your logic, I would go to a furniture store to look at a new recliner and the salesperson asks "Would you be interested in the caucasion recliner or the African American recliner?

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tduncanspradley 1 year, 7 months ago

evidentally you can not read what i was saying is do not make it a black thing bc there are just as many white ppl living the same way as what is described by the sqwaker. silly

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VSU 1 year, 7 months ago

I can read, but evidently you can't write. You said ...."i see just as many whites white furniture in the yard" It was as if you were inplying that the furniture was white furniture. I can read just fine and I know what you meant, and I wasn't being mean, just being humorous and I think you saw that. Have a good day :)

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paymyownway 1 year, 7 months ago

After reading all the comments, it's easy to see that the bigger problem in Albany is not trash in the yard.

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Amazed2 1 year, 7 months ago

Agirl, seriously doubt they were squatters since it was a developed neighberhood witb nice houses on each side and across the street. Im sure the neighbors would have been on the phone with the local authorities, etc. No actually as others have mentioned in these comments this is becoming somewhat of a common thing in St. Andrews' Doublegate and other nice or formally nice neighborhoods. Even some apartment complexes around the Mall area have had to address the problem of couches and chairs in the coomon walway hallway areas outsude the apartment. For some reasin this seems to be passed diwn from several generations agi where people had nothing to di in evening and the shacks were tiny so they sat out front in the dirt yard.

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agirl_25 1 year, 7 months ago

Maybe not, but I do know that in some of the nicer suburbs of Toledo they have had some problems with squatters. I even read that the TV/motion picture actor, Randy Quaid and his wife, have been arrested for squatting in multi-million dollar manisons in California when he fell on hard times so you never know. Life is strange.

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Amazed2 1 year, 7 months ago

Welcome to Albany !! They should change the name to "Program City" located in Government County.

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Sister_Ruby 1 year, 7 months ago

Some of those "homes" you're referring to are probably owned by the Rev. Lorenzo Heard in one form or another.

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agirl_25 1 year, 7 months ago

You know I only found one home listed in the tax rolls owned by him and his wife, a nice one too, but the ownership looks kinda fuzzy. I guess he has it tied up some way to cover his rear end. I will dig deeper. I love public records.

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VSU 1 year, 7 months ago

I can see it now. A furniture company comes deliver new furniture and they ask the customer where they want it. "Oh, put that couch between those big trees, that end table by the rose bush and put that recliner over here next to the bird bath. Leroy likes to use that as his ashtray"

On a side note, I am sure all the stray cats likes the furniure outside. They have something they can scratch their claws on.

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agirl_25 1 year, 7 months ago

Sounds like the Beverly Hillbillies...or someone who just won the Georgia Lottery......how about the Big Cement Pond....what will they use that for?

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VSU 1 year, 7 months ago

My favorite parts of the Beverly Hillbillies was they finally figured out that everytime they heard the bells chime that someone was at the front door and they tried to stick wood in the oven to use to cook chicken.

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agirl_25 1 year, 7 months ago

I don't remember that part......all I remember was being called Ellie Mae, not because of resembling her....haha...but because of bringing home critters like she did. Used to drive the husband nuts but the kids loved it. At one time had 7 stray dogs that I adopted, 5 cats, 5 horses, chickens, and rabbits. I learned that rabbits can reproduce every 30 days. City girls learn fast.

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VSU 1 year, 7 months ago

I think it was in the very first episode when they first moved into that home.

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stc1993 1 year, 7 months ago

I liked how they thought the billiards table was the fancy dining room table.

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Amazed2 1 year, 7 months ago

Well Jed and Granny were too proud to take handouts so could not be them. They actually worked and did chores.

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tocar 1 year, 7 months ago

How you keep your property within a subdivision should be everyone's business when it degrades the surrounding properties. We have next door neighbors who do not keep the exterior of the home or yards. We have seen wharf rats running around in the high grass / weeds and unkept flower beds. It becomes a matter of filth and disease. This place was immaculate when they purchased it and sadly they have allowed weeds and anything else to take over. The house is covered with green algae and the window panes are barely in the wood casings. They are of age and intelligence that you would think they would care. I think the word is "lazy".

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agirl_25 1 year, 7 months ago

I guess it depends on the type subdivision you live in. I have a sister in Virginia in a gated community and they have tight rules and regulations on every aspect of living. Even a fence is not allowed in the front yard and you had better not even think of letting your boat sit in your driveway more than 12 hours. You may NOT have an RV in the driveway AT ALL! so don't even think about it. Those people would not be long residing there tocar.....but I have seen houses like that. When I worked home health there was an older very well educated couple, both retired college professors and their house was falling down...literally....to the point that I refused to go inside and would tell them it was such a lovely (pick one) spring, summer, or fall day, that we should sit outside while I checked their blood glucose levels, blood pressure and discussed diet with them for controlling their diabetes. I have no idea what the word was in their case. Lazy? Dumb? Spaced out?

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Hoodie 1 year, 7 months ago

Winding Way in Lee Co. is the same way once a nice new neighborhood now they call it the Lee County Ghetto.....

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VSU 1 year, 7 months ago

10-4. That neighborhood went down fast.

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Amazed2 1 year, 7 months ago

Yea Winding Way is now De neighbor "HOOD"

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Greedygutt 1 year, 7 months ago

To the member. I think I know the house your talking about a few blocks off of dawson rd. The yard doesn't have any furniture in it, it's pretty well maintained from what I see. I saw what seem to be a project car under a cover and a guy was working on a car in the yard. I don't see what's the big deal with the guy parking his semi at HIS HOUSE. If it bothers you that much stop by and talk to him about it or are you afraid of the big black guy. Maybe you would you prefer they run a crack house in your neighborhood.I think you might be jealous that a young BLACK family can afford a house that's bigger than yours. Your comment sounds as if you you've got a personal problem with that family. A semi in a yard isn't what the squawk was about and him parking at HIS HOUSE won't affect your property value. Some people........

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VSU 1 year, 7 months ago

Why would anybody be jealous of someone living on Stuart Ave.? Stuart Ave is not exactly the fashion plate of houses. I see black people living in nice big houses in Doublegate areas, Willow Lake, Hickory Grove Etc. I ask again, why would anybody be jealous of anyone living on Stuart Ave.? I've seen houses on 1st Ave that look better than some of the houses on Stuart.

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Greedygutt 1 year, 7 months ago

To the member. I think I know the house your talking about a few blocks off of dawson rd. The yard doesn't have any furniture in it, it's pretty well maintained from what I see. I saw what seem to be a project car under a cover and a guy was working on a car in the yard. I don't see what's the big deal with the guy parking his semi at HIS HOUSE. If it bothers you that much stop by and talk to him about it or are you afraid of the big black guy. Maybe you would you prefer they run a crack house in your neighborhood.I think you might be jealous that a young BLACK family can afford a house that's bigger than yours. Your comment sounds as if you you've got a personal problem with that family. A semi in a yard isn't what the squawk was about and him parking at HIS HOUSE won't affect your property value. Some people........

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stc1993 1 year, 7 months ago

Isn't there a city code against parking semi's in residental neighborhoods?

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