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Tribunal suggests renewal

Former Westtown fifth grade teacher Adrienne Savage is sworn in prior to her testimony before an administrative tribunal in her CRCT cheating hearing Tuesday. Her attorney, Charles Cox of Macon, looks on. The tribunal recommended that the Dougherty County School Board renew her teaching contract.

Former Westtown fifth grade teacher Adrienne Savage is sworn in prior to her testimony before an administrative tribunal in her CRCT cheating hearing Tuesday. Her attorney, Charles Cox of Macon, looks on. The tribunal recommended that the Dougherty County School Board renew her teaching contract.

ALBANY, Ga. — An administrative tribunal on Tuesday recommended that former Westtown Elementary School teacher Adrienne Savage’s teaching contract with the Dougherty County School System be renewed.

The tribunal rejected the charges which had been made against Savage by state investigators probing irregularities in the 2009 CRCTs in 11 of 16 DCSS elementary schools.

The hearing marked the final tribunal for 12 DCSS teachers and administrators who had been named in state investigators’ report to Gov. Nathan Deal. State investigators and the Georgia Bureau of Investigation spent nearly five months in Dougherty County probing the cheating allegations.

Savage was a fifth-grade teacher when the 2009 standardized tests were administered. She was accused of prompting students and assisting in changing answers on the tests.

She was one of three Westtown employees named in the report. The other two were principal Alene Pringle and fellow fifth-grade teacher Gloria Mosely. Pringle and Mosely both retired before facing hearings.

Mosely, who had been granted immunity from prosecution by investigators, admitted to changing answers and testified against Savage at the hearing.

Her testimony, however, appeared to carry little weight with the tribunal, which recommended Savage be reissued her teaching contract.

“I feel wonderful. This is really a relief,” Savage said after the panel announced its decision. “I now realize that it’s over and I will be able to be with my students again. The hardest part was just getting here in the first place, my hearing was rescheduled twice.”

Mosely was DCSS attorney Flin Coleman’s main witness against Savage. During the hearing Mosely testified that Westtown teachers had been instructed by Pringle to walk other classrooms during the tests, which is a violation of CRCT testing protocol.

Mosley said she was administering the science portion of the test when Savage, a science teacher, entered her classroom.

“She (Savage) went to the first child after she walked in, turned some pages on the test booklet, checked the girl’s answers then gave the student two thumbs up,” Mosely testified.

Mosley said Savagethen moved on to another student and did the same thing. But she pointed to the test booklet until the student changed her answer.

“I told her she wasn’t supposed to do that.”

Mosely said that Savage was in the classroom for about three minutes.

Savage acknowledged walking through Mosely’s class, but denied flipping through students’ test booklets and speaking with Mosely.

Charles Cox, Savage’s attorney, charged during his cross-examination of Mosley that the former teacher changed her earlier statement of denial that any cheating was going on in the school after obtaining immunity from prosecution from a GBI special agent.

“Ms. Mosley changed her statement because she was afraid she was going to jail,” Cox said in his closing statement. “What we heard here today is all a pack of lies. The ‘get out of jail free card’ from the GBI was her way out of trouble. There is nothing credible about Ms. Mosely.”

After rendering the tribunal’s decision, panel chairman Ed Dyson said it was obvious that something was going on at the school.

“This was a very difficult decision to reach,” Dyson said. “It might not have seemed like there was much going it, but it was. We knew something was going on at the school, but Savage’s involvement was not clear enough to cost her her job.

“We think this was a fair decision.”

Savage and Beverly Knighton-Harris, who was cleared by the tribunal on Monday, still must be issued new contracts by the DCSS School Board.

Comments

Sister_Ruby 2 years ago

Savage was one of the very worst, most blatant offenders. Her polygraph results were "indicative of deception".

Skating party continues.

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Shinedownfan 2 years ago

"Teacher recommended for renewal" ...of course she was!

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chinaberry25 2 years ago

I was told by a retired teacher from West Town that they were told by principal that they were not suppose to flunk on anything.

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tywebb 2 years ago

it's amazing what teachers are told and what they can and can't do. There are sooooooooo many schools, not just in doco, that "encourage" their teachers NOT to give any report card grade below a 60. Even if the student "earned" a 25. I am all for giving a helping hand, but not for giving a hand out.

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Sister_Ruby 2 years ago

And the "DCSS" has a right to a competent lawyer which they did NOT get. Criminal negligence and legal masfeasance. Laughing all the way to the bank, I expect......are the DCSS Lawyers invited to the Skating Party too? Or did they just get cash only?

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Cartman 2 years ago

Why don't they just cancel the remainder of the tribunal hearings? The deals only seem to be inflicting more harm to the community.

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lynn227 2 years ago

There are no more. This was the last hearing. Would you also like the courts to cancel all future trials because the plea bargains are hurting the community? People who have been accused of wrongdoing have a right to due process. That's what's great about living in a democracy.

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tywebb 2 years ago

i don't agree with much of what you say, Lynn, but you're right here. That's our Justice system in America. On to the next case.......free lunches, anyone?

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straightface 2 years ago

That was the last tribunal for DCSS..

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Ijustdontkno 2 years ago

@ Sister _Ruby... u can kiss Savage Ruddy Pa Tuddy. Do you know what was deceptive about her polograpgy? The fact that she didn't cheat and had no knowledge of anyone cheating. I am a dear friend of Savage and my own kids were in her class and she didn't help them not that they needed it but i'm just saying.

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Sister_Ruby 2 years ago

What is the probability of cheating when your wrong-to-right erasures were such that ODDS AGAINST CHEATING equaled THIRTY STANDARD DEVIATIONS? That Equals 100 Percent Probability of Cheating. She Cheated, denied, lied, and will skate. Lesson learned for all DCSS school children for their futures. Do what you like and never admit what you did and you will never pay a penalty. That's whatIknow.

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tywebb 2 years ago

sister, you keep talking about standard deviations, but you and I both know that 98% of the people on here have absolutely NO idea what you speak of!

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Sister_Ruby 2 years ago

But that IS the CASE and it IS the EVIDENCE and I've been a voice crying in the wilderness for days and days and nobody listens. Only in SOWEGA, it seems, does The Mathematics mean absolutely NOTHING. No wonder everybody else in this state sees us as the Backwater Inbreds that we are.

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lynn227 2 years ago

We well know about standard deviation. That's not the problem. It can't say who tampered with a test, only that there is a probability something went amiss. The only reason Sister_Ruby you are alone, crying in the wilderness, is you seem to want to accept only one cause for the erasures. In your mind, the classroom teachers had to do it, because they were named as being flagged. It's not that simple. West Town has shown us that. There were teachers there altering tests from different classrooms. So how can the teacher of record be guilty, when he/she had no hand in it?In every public school here in Dougherty County, you always have at least three people besides the principal, who owns the place. They are the foot soldiers and they don't mind doing what they are told. That is...until they are caught, then they 'feel it was wrong but just had to obey'.

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Ijustdontkno 2 years ago

@ Sister_Ruby I am so glad you know something about probability and other people business. You seem to know or think you know something about everything happening in Albany. what is the probability tha your behind is nosey? Plain nosey. Go back and read the report and you will see she was never accused of changing answers from wrong to right. On second thought don't go back and read it because guess what? It's over. and you need to know and undetstand that.

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Sister_Ruby 2 years ago

She was never accused of physically changing the answers (erasing) HERSELF, agreed. She WAS accused of prompting the chilllrrreennn to change the answers which is what she did and what she was observed by witnesses of doing. She cheated, she lied, the tribunal and the attorneys fumbled, farted, and fell, and now she is enjoying a delightful skating party. Life lesson learned for the children.

It's not about my Nosey, it's about my Brainey which unfortunately too many people are not using.

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Pastor 2 years ago

If we knew each other's secrets, what comforts we should find. No man is happy without a delusion of some kind. Delusions are as necessary to our happiness as realities. A miserable individual will kill you quicker, far quicker, than a germ.

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Sister_Ruby 2 years ago

Hello?? Can you say something meaningful that the average non-pastor can understand? All this DCSS abortion needs now a ju-ju man added to the mix.

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Cartman 2 years ago

Keep in mind that there is a possibility that the erasures did not occur in the classroom. Once they leave the kids' hands - they go somewhere.

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ittybittyme 2 years ago

Ijustdon'tkno...it is obvious you are a product of DCSS...you cannot construct a sentence using proper grammar or subject-verb agreement...and let me guess you are a proud African-American who thinks we are all racists...boo hoo...once again you think black folks who do wrong should get a free pass....You are wrong!!

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bubbasmithredneck 2 years ago

Sister Ruby bites the dust again!!!! hahahahahahahaha Go teachers!!!!

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Sister_Ruby 2 years ago

Justice and Truth are both lying face down with gut shots right now. I'm fine....just sick to my stomach.

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hotdog 2 years ago

Your opinion is not justice or truth.....show us some actual facts where she cheated....why would the panel take the word of an admitted cheater on an accused cheater....

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bubbasmithredneck 2 years ago

These tribunals have been a great for the "justice" of innocent teachers....they deserved much better from our local press.

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tywebb 2 years ago

just because they were rehired doesn't mean they were innocent. it just means that that little thing called EVIDENCE wasn't strong enough. It was there, just not enough for some of them

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Sister_Ruby 2 years ago

It's simple. The basis of ALL of the CRCT analysis was from occurence of "wrong-to-right erasures" for each individual classroom compared to ALL classrooms in Georgia.

ALL of the flagged classrooms (occurences of wrong-to-right erasures) were those that showed a high enough rate so that the likelihood of an external factor (ie NOT a normal, expected quantity of wrong-to-right erasures compared to the average classroom) exceeded 99.7%. Most of the classrooms that were flagged had a 99.999+ % likelihood of cheating somewhere in the process and Adrienne Savage had a 99.999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999+++% probability of cheating, meaning that there was only one chance in a BILLION BILLION BILLION that somebody did not either CHEAT DURING the testing OR CHANGE THE ANSWERS FOR THE CHILDREN after the test. One or the other DID HAPPEN.

Any run of the mill high school math teacher could have explained it all. Obviously nobody wanted it explained to them, especially the idiot savant lawyers for DCSS.

That's all for now.

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lynn227 2 years ago

With the exception of Savage, the people who had a standard deviation equaling what you are spouting here, they were never brought before a tribunal. Do you even begin to see the problem with this fiasco? People with the 8-12 point standard deviations were allowed to not only continue teaching in the classroom, they never have to face a tribunal. If the investigation is to be believed, the higher your numbers the more assurance you have of being left alone by DCSS. Had Mosely not chosen to drag her former friend down with her, Savage woud have been left alone.

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TRUTH101 2 years ago

How in the h3ll was Ms. Lyons not offered a contract because she told a student to "check your answers," which is ok according to the CRCT handbook.......but Savage gets away and the proctor reported her to have pointed out correct answers. I guess Ms. Lyons was the sacrificial lamb....smdh

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Ijustdontkno 2 years ago

@Ttuth101 and we thought you could read and comprehend. Reread the results the proctor never said that Savage pointed to anything it was that lying Gloria Mosely who said that.

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Ijustdontkno 2 years ago

SisierRuby you said all that to say what? 99.999999 is 100% everybody know what 99.9999 % is equivalent to. If the indications are ture which they are not. pointing to one answer will in no way form or fashion constitute a 77% increase to a 3% decrease. umma need for you to go to sleep.

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Sister_Ruby 2 years ago

Would you get on an airplane that had a 50% chance of crashing? Would you get on an airplane that had a 99.99% chance of crashing? Would you get on an airplane that had a 99.9999999999999999999999999999999999% chance of crashing?

No. But you would ignorantly accept that a teacher or administrator or principal was innocent even with those same odds. Brainless or obstinate or both? You should examine yourself.

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waltspecht 2 years ago

Look, this Tribunal wasn't composed of real Judges. I think we might be hard pressed not to call them preferential, possibly suffering from for the"There, but Grace of God go I" That is what makes it so hard to get really tough DUI laws. Too many Politicians are worried they will be caught. There are Countries that if you are caught once, you will never drive again. Plus, if they do catch a suspended individual driving there is a mandatory sentenance.

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Sister_Ruby 2 years ago

Specifically, CTB McGraw-Hill determined that if a class had WTR erasures more than three standard deviations above the expected norm (i.e., the state average), it was almost statistically impossible for such a high number of WTR erasures to have occurred without some external force operating to cause it. For example, at three standard deviations there is only one in 370 chance that the high erasures occurred by coincidence and at five standard deviations there is only one in 1.7 million. By seven standard deviations, there is only one in 390 billion chance that such a high number of WTR erasures occurred randomly.

-- From the CRCT report

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lynn227 2 years ago

That still does not explain WHO?

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Sister_Ruby 2 years ago

And there has been, nor does it appear there will ever be, any attempt whatsoever to answer your question.

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straightface 2 years ago

EXACTLY.. SISTER RUBY! SO LET IT GO! ITS OVER NOW..

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Sister_Ruby 2 years ago

But if we can agree that nobody knows WHO....and nobody's trying to find out WHO......how can YOU be so absolutely CERTAIN WHO it is NOT??

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lynn227 2 years ago

Their biggest mistake, as far as I can see, was allowing people to save face by retiring. They should have been forced to stand and face the music. As a result of that action, we will never fully know what part they played in this mess. No, we don't fully know WHO it is NOT. However, even you must see the injustice of dragging those who are innocent, simply because those who might have been the masterminds, fled by the back way.

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Sister_Ruby 2 years ago

YOU don't know WHO is innocent and WHO is guilty. YOU don't KNOW, no matter what your FRIEND says.

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lynn227 2 years ago

Nothing I said above comes from any friend. I think I used the word 'might'. However, even you must admit they 'fled' for some reason. Innocent people tend to stand and fight. Those who want as little questioning as possible, "They scram!"

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director1217 2 years ago

If she left out of her room and went into another room and get no penalty the ones that said "check over your work" should certainly be set financially free!

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lynn227 2 years ago

Mr. Coleman has made such a big noise about it being against the law to evaluate a child's work during testing. I guess that only applies to those teachers who never strayed from their classrooms; those that might accidentally see what one child marked. Evidently, it's okay to deliberately check over the CRCT tests of those outside one's classroom. Things that are done unintentionally...there's a price to pay for that.

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Bubbavet_rureel 2 years ago

The cat is out of the bag, Sister lives in Valdosta, and this explains the negative environment she foster toward people of __.

READ MY LIPS - WE THE CITIZENS LOVE ASU,DCSS, DARTON, and all other ATTRACTIONs.

Stop using the global internet to cause dispair in our community. We are winners! we alsways win.

Stop hidding behind your empty sad song's.

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Sister_Ruby 2 years ago

All it takes to "cause dispair (despair) in our community" is to walk around with your eyes and ears open. That will pretty much do it for anybody....if they have the ability to think logically and objectively. Many don't. You don't.

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lynn227 2 years ago

Are you residing in Valdosta?

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Sister_Ruby 2 years ago

No I stays in Dougherty County. He just infatuated with me and want to come over. Not gone happen.

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