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Squawk of the day - Dec. 6, 2012

"I am so glad the state has finally taken over the money controls of our school system in Dougherty County. The next step should be to demand the resignations of school board members and those in upper management."

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dickyboy 1 year, 4 months ago

There are two or three members on the board that really care ...and want to do the right thing

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FryarTuk 1 year, 4 months ago

We are losing the only member of the board of education who is worth his salt - David Maschke. Ealum and Tharin have yet to prove their value beyond following. It is my hope that a divisive contest doesn't erupt over the election of the chair. Keep James Bush, he's not as dumb as he looks. Robert Youngblood has experience in education and knows the administrative systems, I only worry that he was a principal in DCSS and that's not saying much. Lane Price has a set of him, brother, and you can believe that but she will have a learning curve of a few months. Ealum and Tharin are still on their curves somewhere and it's hard to tell if they can walk and chew gum simultaneously.

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whattheheck 1 year, 4 months ago

I'll buy that and would like fries and a large sweet tea too. Hit it on the head, Fryar.

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KaosinAlbany 1 year, 4 months ago

Youngblood will be just fine. He has the financial background and the education background. I trust his judgment completely, plus he was my old high school principal. He is perfect for the school board. : ) I think he will help DCSS get back on financial track with his prior work experience.

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chinaberry25 1 year, 4 months ago

That $11 million probably not cover it. I think they should also press charges against the culprits, but just like Velvet, the DA would not prosecute his family or do a poor job of presenting the case. They need to be move out of town. They also need to set up a fund to reward folks who turn them it.

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waltspecht 1 year, 4 months ago

Outside entities, with no ties of any sort to this area or the people involved. That is what needs to make up these monitors. That, and real teeth in what they wnat done. To remove a cancer you have to cut it out completely. Unfortunately it also means many of these incompetants will be able to retire after ripping off the Taxpayers for all these years, they will continue to do so with retirement. There should be some way to denie retirement due to the fact that they never did do their job correctly, and survived on fraud and deception.

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FryarTuk 1 year, 4 months ago

waltspecht, I feel agreement with every word you write. I would suggest that fighting their retirement is a losing proposition. Let's pick the fights we can win and expend good public enthusiasm and board/administrative energy on getting these kids decent educational opportunities and establishing a transparent,responsive administrative system.

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whattheheck 1 year, 4 months ago

Jeez, Walt, if worth during the working years impacts retirement, there would be a whole lot of folks without it. The key to that issue is to quit giving these poor performers high marks, bonuses, and awards for doing poor work, which is done with public and private employees.. But if we could do as you say, the Congressional retirement costs could be paid out of my month check.

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RedEric 1 year, 4 months ago

Due to Phoebe, all of the so called churches and government housing there are not that many property tax payers so the burden must be borne by the vanishing few.

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USTPC 1 year, 4 months ago

If you are a proponent of taxing Phoebe and churches, both of which are non-profit entities, then you should also be a proponent of taxing any and all non profit including but not limited to Red Cross, March Of Dimes, Feed The Children, Habitat For Humanity, American Cancer Society, Childrens Miracle Network and on and on and on. Eliminate all non profit and eveyone pays taxes on the revenue and property that they acquire/own.

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billybob 1 year, 4 months ago

Phoebe is not really a non-profit. How can you buy up profitable medical practices and magically they become non-profit just because of change in ownership? What happened to the profits that allowed them to be profitable businesses for years? Phoebe generates huge profits and they should be taxed.

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dingleberry 1 year, 4 months ago

Red, it is my estimate that half of all property in DoCo is non-taxable, although the records don't support that number since the records are incorrect. On the subj of religious property, there are over 800 parcels not taxed. some parts of which possibly should be even under the existing laws. And on "government housing", most subsidized housing except that owned by the Housing Authority, about 1,200 or so units, and a handful of senior units in three complexes, is taxed including that owned by Cutliff and other churches through their non-profit arms and the 1,500 units of Section 8 private owned voucher choice housing. One big exception is a few million bucks in old base housing owned by Mt Olive that probably should be taxed and needs a relook. And while Phoebe has a zillion dollars in untaxed property, you can thank our Hospital Authority for a lot of that, enablers to Phoebe in this case.

Basically, you are right that the tax digest in DoCo sucks bullets. And anyone with a brain that looks at property tax in making a decision to move, or stay here, can easily see it. The three taxing entities, however, seem oblivious to the situation.

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VSU 1 year, 4 months ago

What RedEric is saying is that most of the burden of property tax is on the homeowners and most businesses for the ones that haven't left Albany yet. .

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FryarTuk 1 year, 4 months ago

I believe there are 15,000 property owners in a county of about 65,000?

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dingleberry 1 year, 4 months ago

Hard to say how many individual property owners there are but the parcel count is 37,510 for 2012. The 15K number is certainly possible with multiple ownership. Never have so few paid so much to support so many, eh?

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fcarroll 1 year, 4 months ago

I read this squawk as regarding school systems and the manner in which the money is spent. We home owners are the people that pay school taxes as well big businesses. Being tax exempt i.e. non-profits means that they have to put the money back into the county in which they reside and that includes people that have no insurance, but run to the emergency department with a runny nose for a week. This happens all the time and the EDs are for real emergencies. And all churches are not tax exempt. We pay taxes on eveything we purchase.

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FryarTuk 1 year, 4 months ago

Churches are tax exempt. You pay only sales tax on what you purchase. You pay nothing for the schools, you pay nothing for the police, you pay nothing for the roads, you pay nothing for the fire, you pay nothing for roads and sewers unless there is a SPLOST, and you pay nothing for the general operations for the city and county. One church completely decimated a taxpaying neighborhood to expand, several churches have private, for profit catering entities operating out of their non-taxed facilities with their non-taxed equipment. Being non-profit certainly does not mean " you have to put the money back into the county in which they reside . . ." and it doesn't mean you can't make money. It means you can't distribute profits as earnings you must either increase your non-profit entity or another such non- profit enterprise/service. Anywhere.

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FlunkyMonkey 1 year, 4 months ago

I agree with this. It is about time that the State discovered what we have known for two years. Murfree is gone. Now get rid of the up tier including Goseer. Having an independent body control how the new superintendent is chosen is the first step in getting the DCSS back on track.

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Jimboob 1 year, 4 months ago

A new broom sweeps clean... Unless a shovel is what is needed.

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FryarTuk 1 year, 4 months ago

The DCSS may be shovel ready.

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URWrongAgain 1 year, 4 months ago

The Georgia Department of Education is a joke! I wouldn't trust them to clean up a pig trough.

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