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Squawk of the Day - Dec. 10, 2012

"Let’s lighten up about Christmas. People who want to celebrate it as the birth of Christ can always do so in church, at home or wherever they please, so long as they’re not imposing religion on others in the public square. And people who want to celebrate it as a pagan winter festival with egg nog and parties and cards ... well, God bless us, every one."

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rightasrain 1 year, 4 months ago

Your "squawk" is so stupid, it doesn't need a response.

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ggray10318 1 year, 4 months ago

The person that wrote that is right on time. He is not stupid, he is only exercising his right to free speak. Further more he is speaking the truth. Don't impose your Jesus lie on me or others.

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waltspecht 1 year, 4 months ago

Tolerance! Now that is a unique idea. If only more chose to practice it than to ignore it. Many of our laws cover things that at one time or another the Citizenry in the majority refused to tolerate. Sometimes they got it right, sometimes they were and are way off base.

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chinaberry25 1 year, 4 months ago

Yeah, and you can always leave America too. If you lived in a Muslim country you would be thrown in prison for this very statement. We will sing it from the heights that Christ was born. For we have that right and will continue to sing his praises while we still have that right. What part do you not get??? And do not expect to get the Blessings of God while you are confessing to be a pagan. it does not work that way, only in your mind. God does bestow goodness on sinners, but not blessings. You have them confused. BTW, Albany does not have a square and as long as we have our freedoms we Christians intend to use them.

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Jimboob 1 year, 4 months ago

“If this is going to be a Christian nation that doesn't help the poor, either we have to pretend that Jesus was just as selfish as we are, or we've got to acknowledge that He commanded us to love the poor and serve the needy without condition and then admit that we just don't want to do it.”

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sld28sld 1 year, 4 months ago

Actually, being Christian doesn't mean constant HANDOUTS, it means a HAND UP! There's a saying "Teach a man to fish and he will never be hungry." See the key word there "TEACH" it doesn't mean go out and fish all day and give away what you worked hard for to someone who's to lazy to get up off their buttocks and go and do for themselves. DON'T twist what you just quoted. Christians help the needy all the time. But to use this quote to insinuate that Christians are supposed to be on the street corner just handing out freebies is WRONG!

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ggray10318 1 year, 4 months ago

That is why he live here in America. He has freedom of speech. Why is it that Christians always want to impose their stupid religion on others. Christianity is a made up religion to control weak minded people from ever thinking for themselves.

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sld28sld 1 year, 4 months ago

The same reason Non-believers want to impose their non-beliefs on others. We have a right according to the Constitution of the United States to practice our religious beliefs freely. Why should we be forced to practice in hiding simply because YOU fail to tolerate our religious freedoms as set to paper by our Founding Forefathers? If you don't want to hear about my religious beliefs, that's fine, don't listen, BUT don't you DARE shove your non-religious beliefs down my throat either. And to call Christians weak minded is so far from the truth. A person that has to tolerate religious persecution at the hands of non-believes is not weak, they are stronger than you can imagine. They KNOW they are going to be persecuted, yet they CONTINUE to believe.

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gladileftalbany 1 year, 4 months ago

and Im sure you are the bozo trying to implement praying in public schools. Because of the lax separation of church and state laws my kids are subjected to God in their school everyday, and I don't like it

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B4it 1 year, 4 months ago

There are several schools in Iran and Syria that would love to indoctrinate your kids to their way of non believer's life. Please take them ASAP.

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billybob 1 year, 4 months ago

Actually, there are very few non-believers in Iran and Syria, they just believe in a different version of god. Why did you choose the version of god you did? Why not Islam, Hindu, Jainsim? Seriously, what made you choose Christianity? Perhaps you were just raised to believe it.

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fcarroll 1 year, 4 months ago

A jolly Merry Christmas is not imposing religion beliefs on others, were it not for his birth there would be no reason for the season. If christians should be tolerant of others, why should non christians be tolerant of others as well?

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ggray10318 1 year, 4 months ago

It is imposing Pagans beliefs on others that do buy the pagan gabbage.

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FlunkyMonkey 1 year, 4 months ago

Why should I hide behind my front door to celebrate Christmas when we are overwhelmed with Kwanza and Rahmadan, Day of the Dead, etc? If they won't tolerate my rights, why should I tolerate theirs?

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waltspecht 1 year, 4 months ago

Possibly because you are a Christian. I have never noticed the Amish, Menonite and German Baptist voicing complaints similar to yours. I grew up around these groups while working on my Uncle's Farm during the Summer, and found them to be among the most tolerant of people I have ever met.

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FlunkyMonkey 1 year, 4 months ago

It has always been a desire of mine to live in an Amish community because of how simple their lives are. My post was in regard to how others can openly celebrate Christmas we are no longer afforded to right to even say Merry Christmas without being told how offensive it. If I am going to let someone practice their whatever without being able to point out that I am offended by such, then I should be afforded the same right.

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billybob 1 year, 4 months ago

You're being overwhelmed with the Day of the Dead? Really?

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sld28sld 1 year, 4 months ago

It was used as an example, if I'm not mistaken. Looking for a reason to argue much?

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billybob 1 year, 4 months ago

I re-read the post. The poster said they were overwhelmed with Kwanzaa, Ramadan and Day of the Dead. Those observances receive a fraction of a fraction of what Christmas receives with regard to hype and promotion. To try and compare them is intellectually dishonest.

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Sapphireblue959 1 year, 4 months ago

fcarroll, true about his birth; but the Bible states it's his death brought about salvation and it states how his death is to be observed, not his birth. Catholism is the reason for all the pagan holidays. How many wise men? The Bible does not state; how many do you see when people have their potrait of the nativity? Also, what does a man in a red suit have to do with Christ? All is about MONEY and LIES.

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sld28sld 1 year, 4 months ago

His death DID bring about salvation, however, how can he die if he's not born??????? Your first statement is about as intelligent as blaming the Catholics for the Christmas holiday. Believe in the conspiracy theory do ya?

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gladileftalbany 1 year, 4 months ago

Apparently God planted a sperm into Mary and voila..we got a baby Jesus. Ha! According to you religous zealots people were riding dinosaurs with saddles around the time of Jesus. Do you really believe the earth is 4,000-10,000 years old? Hilarious

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billybob 1 year, 4 months ago

Salvation from what? What evidence do you have for any of the events in the bible other than the bible itself?

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B4it 1 year, 4 months ago

Why are the intolerant Merry Christmas bashers so against a season that brings a message of peace, love and giving for others?

MERRY CHRISTMAS to all who read this!!!!! Hopes yours is filled with smiles.

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Sapphireblue959 1 year, 4 months ago

If this is the ONLY TIME for peace, love and giving, it is sad. Peace, love and giving is a daily ritual. What about the other seasons?

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B4it 1 year, 4 months ago

Sapphire... What a shallow statement and question. Having a season of remembrance is for the same reason as having days to remember the soldiers/veterans on Veterans Day, or Independence Day on July 4th, etc.. It is a time to reflect, re-energize ourselves, and to bring a level of emphasis so that we do not forget to be THANKFUL for what we have been provided. Have you ever celebrated your birthday? If yes, was this because you might forget that you were born? Rather than trying to put down a beautiful time of year, try doing something that actually brings a smile to someone's face.

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RedEric 1 year, 4 months ago

I love to celebrate the birth of Christ with family and friends. Others can do as they please even if I find it offensive. I don't like what these fronts, businesses, corporations posing as churches have done in the name of Christianity. I don't like the comercialization of Christmas. I don't like all of the silly add-ons to the season, but I don't have to answer for that...others do.

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agirl_25 1 year, 4 months ago

I don't celebrate Christmas, haven't for over 35 years, don't send out Christmas cards, get a tree, don't do any of the "traditional" things. Why? because I don't feel like it. My family understands and they accept it. Has nothing to do with my religious beliefs.....I just don't enjoy it.....so I don't do it. I someone asks me "Did you have a nice Christmas" or "Are you ready for Christmas"....and I say "I don't do Christmas"..........they are at a loss for words. I just don't do it.

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FlunkyMonkey 1 year, 4 months ago

That is the best thing I have heard in a long time!! Atta girl--I always manage to cave to family pressures.

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Sister_Ruby 1 year, 4 months ago

Joy to the World! Peace On Earth among those with whom He (God, not Obama) is pleased!

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Jimboob 1 year, 4 months ago

Has anyone REALLY been told not to wish someone a Merry Christmas? Maybe I don't get out enough but I have never been told to button my lip when I say "Merry Christmas".

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Cartman 1 year, 4 months ago

Merry Christmas Y'all!!!!!!!!!!!!! and Happy Hanukkah Too Y'all!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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cratergs 1 year, 4 months ago

jimboob,

This IS a Christian nation and those who truly follow Christ do help the poor. He continually taught his followers they were to give to the poor, he never mentioned that the government was to take over that function. Otherwise, he would have been talking to Caesar......

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sld28sld 1 year, 4 months ago

He also expects man to help himself, not to expect others to do for them while they are lazy. This is what the Bible says about laziness (people who don't try to help themselves and expect others to stand in line and provide them with handouts) :

Proverbs 19:15 ESV - Slothfulness casts into a deep sleep, and an idle person will suffer hunger.

2 Thessalonians 3:6-12 ESV - Now we command you, brothers, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you keep away from any brother who is walking in idleness and not in accord with the tradition that you received from us. For you yourselves know how you ought to imitate us, because we were not idle when we were with you, nor did we eat anyone's bread without paying for it, but with toil and labor we worked night and day, that we might not be a burden to any of you. It was not because we do not have that right, but to give you in ourselves an example to imitate. For even when we were with you, we would give you this command: If anyone is not willing to work, let him not eat. ...

Many of the Christian churches in town provide classes to help people rise up from their situation, as well as providing clothes, blankets, food and other services to those in need. Don't blame Christians Jimboob, for other people's laziness!!!

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gladileftalbany 1 year, 4 months ago

and this isn't JUST a Christian nation..

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Local 1 year, 4 months ago

We wish you a MERRY CHRISTMAS, we wish you a MERRY CHRISTMAS, we wish you a MERRY CHRISTMAS and Happy New Year!!

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fcarroll 1 year, 4 months ago

There is enought hand outs already via our government. If a person lives on the streets or goes hungry in this country it is their on fault. We have Salvation Armys, Red Cross, and churches that help the needy, but when you look in the lines waiting for handouts, do they really look like they are in need? And yes, i believe in a living God and pray for the ignorant that doesn't.

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