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Even if all those kids had been praying that crazy man with an assault rifle and two hand guns would have still broken into the school and killed them. I'm sure that this will blow over like the other mass shootings without the real problem being addressed.
But I collect assault rifles! It's just a hobby, it's not like anyone could use it for harm...
Jimboob, the real problem will never be addressed as long as people blames the guns instead of the people behind the guns. We tend to place blame everywhere but where blame should be placed. This country started going to hell in a hand basket when God was taken out of everything and everywhere. And you are right, within a week it will be forgotten. The only thing is that it would be a bomb or granade next. God bless this USA
10-4! Exactly what I said in another post. They will find a way. Some people just don't get it.
I agree about taking God ot of our schools. Parents are not teaching their children values. I also believe we need a ban on all assult rifles. There is no logical reason for a plane citicen owning one of these. A pistol or hunting rifle is one thing but these ak47's ect. need to be outlawed. What is a good reason for having one? You cant hunt with them, the only thing they were made for was shooting multipule rounds at the same time. It is what it is, an ASSULT rifle
I am all for owning a weapon, but we have to do something.
Bombs or grenades would not be next. They aren't easily available nor are they in nearly 50% of homes in the US.
I can't think of anything more horrible than losing your child to senseless violence. I just read a long list of violence committed by people who were prescribed mood altering drugs. Zoloft and Paxil were among them. People are given these drugs and then released. We used to have large mental institutions where people went who had problems and could be monitored. The medical community decided they would have a better chance of healing if they were in normal surroundings. The country will not talk about that aspect about this tragedy , instead it will all be about guns. It is essential to the Progressives that they take our guns. They will use this horrible nightmare as a step in that direction.
The libtards will hate this but less face it if a few of them teachers had been armed alot less people would have died. A heavily armed town is a criminals worst nightmare.
If there ever was an argument for abortion.
I can't believe God would allow this just because God's name has been removed from the Schools. He is still out there and available. Now one might ask how God could allow an individual to exist that had this evil within him, that would be a better question. However, I believe we all know they have existed for all time, and will continue to pleague the human race. Even if it were possible to take away all the guns, there would still be instances such as this. Does anyone really believe this couldn't have been accomplished with an ax? Children trapped in a classroom are easy pray, and have no where to run. Isreal knew of the vulnerability of it's schools years ago. In each school there are heavily armed, highly trained Teachers. It is sort of a retirement program for their military elite. I once met a retired Mossad that was an agricultural instructor.
Isreal's way to deal with the potential
@ Walt, you're right gun control will not prevent further tragedies, just like government efforts to prevent all terrorism are futile. However, can we enact legislation that can MINIMIZE senseless violence? That might mean us forgoing some of our individual freedoms like we did with 9/11 in order to protect the masses. By the way, notice that there might be a trend between these acts of violence and the declining trend in funding mental illness at the state level across all of the US.
Don't blame this on the gun or the mental illness or the drug he was or was not taking. The one thing that should be blames is the person who picked up that gun and used it on children. I know literally hundreds of persons who deal with mental illness on a daily basis. They are chased by demons and ghosts and countless other evils. They don't blame society, they don't blame an abusive childhood. They don't pick up a gun and shoot babies. They do the best they can and never stop running. This a*** was tired of being in the shadows and wanted attention. The bad thing is that one year from now, his name will be remembered as the demon that killed twenty children. But not one of us outside Newtown Ct. will be able to recall one of the children's or the teachers names. This bastard will get his wish. He will always be remembered.
Good Grief... We can barely get teachers who know their subject matter and you want to have them... Oh, never mind,
Just as an aside here, I doubt anyone in Washington will make an attempt to further regulate any firearms (and btw I haven't heard anything about that from anyone outside of the conservative spectrum).
What I think is more likely to happen is that we'll see federally-mandated school safety requirements that would include new construction regulations for safety, i.e. bullet resistant windows, buzzing doors, mandatory metal detectors in the same way the feds have mandated construction to meet the ADA. This is my prediction for 2013...schools are going to start looking a lot more like fortresses or prisons...
Just my humble opinion.
JD I have to disagree with you that no one in Washington or on lamestream media is talking about gun control. I watched 48 hours special report on the shootings and gun control was a portion of what they talked about. I also watched several special reports on the day of the shooting and every one of them brought up gun control. Obama has said he will use every power of his office to prevent this from happening again (which is an empty statement.....even if guns were outlawed completely the crazies would use bombs, cars, etc to carry out the massacre). Governers Hickenlooper (D-Colorado), Quinn (D-Illinois), and Cuomo (D-New York) have all called for the tragedy to be used for stricter gun control. Let's not forget Mayor Bloomberg of New York (who as far as I am concerned is as crazy as they come) who is calling on Obama to use Executive Privalege to enact gun control. Rep. Keith Ellison (D-Minnesota) has said we need to act as a nation and enact gun control legislation. Senator Dianne Feinstein (D-California) has already stated that she will introduce legislation to ban assault weapons at the beginning of the next Congressional session.
So the Socialist (currently know as the Democratic) party is using the tragedy to try and implement more gun control.
So now god is not omnipotent and omnipresent? Man is more powerful than god and can kick him out of a school? What a weak god! How about we stop with magical thinking and look for real answers to real problems.
Additionally, I don't particularly care for the Christian god's take on violence against children as he seems to be all for it.
Then Sihon came out against us, he and all his people, unto battle at Jahaz. And Jehovah our God delivered him up before us; and we smote him, and his sons, and all his people. And we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed every inhabited city, with the women and the little ones; we left none remaining.
So the LORD our God delivered Og also, king of Bashan, with all his people into our hand, and we smote them until no survivor was left. We captured all his cities at that time; there was not a city which we did not take from them: sixty cities, all the region of Argob, the kingdom of Og in Bashan. All these were cities fortified with high walls, gates and bars, besides a great many unwalled towns. We utterly destroyed them, as we did to Sihon king of Heshbon, utterly destroying the men, women and children of every city.
1 Samuel 15:3,8
Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.' " … He took Agag king of the Amalekites alive, and all his people he totally destroyed with the sword.
Samaria shall bear her guilt, because she has rebelled against her God; they shall fall by the sword, their little ones shall be dashed in pieces, and their pregnant women ripped open.
There it is - straight from the bible. God has nothing to do with the school shooting as he does not exist. However, we do exist and it is up to us to find out the cause of these violent mental breakdowns and put a stop to them. If we are waiting on an invisible man in the sky to solve our problems they will never be solved.
Here we go again with your statement that God is an imaginary being. Do you know what is really imaginary? Your belief that the earth and sun and planets and stars and animals and plants and humans came into existence from nothing. That there was no life and then magically life created itself and then proceeded to evolve from a single cell to animals, plants, humans, etc and that the sun just happened to end up at exactly the perfect distance from earth so that it was not so close that everything burned up but not so far that everything would freeze. Oh and let's not leave out that some of those single cells that evolved decided to evolve into the male side of a species and some decided to evolve into the female side of the species. Or that some decided they would evolve into the more intelligent humans and some decided they would evolve into the dumber animals.
As far as God you missed the part in the Bible where Israel turned their back on him and so he turned his back on them for 400 years. We as a nation have turned our back on God and we are just starting to feel his wrath.
You are right about one thing though. God does not have anything to do with the shooting. There is evil in this world, there has always been evil in this world, and there will always be evil in this world no matter how many laws you pass or how many freedoms you take away.
seriously?? USTPC? You are whats wrong with society
Really? I am what is wrong with society? How did you come to that conclusion...because I believe in a greater God or because I believe evil exists in the world? Or is it because I do not believe in the magical creation of something from nothing and evolution?
Evolution is a fact. It is observable, settled science. Denying it is akin to saying the earth is flat. Heck, even Pat Robertson has acknowledged as much. And by the way, if you believe in the biblical account of creation you do believe in the magical creation of something from nothing. You are attempting a very weak arguement for a first cause. Just one of the many problems with that arguement is the natural question of 'what caused god?'
Evolution is still a theory.
You don't understand the term 'theory' as it relates to science. Do just a small amount of research. Evolution is settled science. It's as settled in the scientific community as the fact that the earth revolves around the sun. It really is.
Haha. Man still trying to pretend it understands everything? "Settled science"???? Hilarious.
billybob.....apparently you enjoy sitting at your computer screen with baited breath for someone to dare mention the three-letter word "god" so that you can once again avail us all of your superior wisdom and intellect. So riddle me this: In your world that came into existence from nothing to what we see today......all through trillions and trillions of random collisions and billions of years........what makes Mother Teresa a better person than Adolph Hitler? And why? And who says? Take all the time you need........
Darwin's "survival of the fittest" is a B.... when played out to its ultimate conclusions......
You misunderstand. Magical thinking harms people. Irrational thought harms people. There is no evidence for any god, the Christian god, any of the Hindu gods, etc., etc. Morality does not come from some supernatural invisible being, it comes from our nature as social being, recognizing that it is not in our best interests to hurt other humans. Mother Teresa (a Christian) tried to help others, Hitler (a Christian also) hurt others. Surely, you can recognize that. If you believe morality comes from a god, what if that god said tomorrow that you should kill children? Would that behavior now be moral? After all, you are allowing another being to dictate your morality instead of using your brain and logic and reason. Futhermore, Sister, if you had the ability and the power to have prevented that massacre, would you? I know I would have as a moral individual. Your supposed god had the power and ability to prevent it, to save the lives of those children and teachers and he chose not to. Why is that? Take all the time you need...
If, at midnight tonight, God (who IS...) were to remove all non-perfect, unrighteous people from the earth.....we would all wake up dead tomorrow morning.
And..you really evaded the question. And..Hitler a Christian? Anybody who knows much about history knows that Hitler and his SS goons merely co-opted the German church, mixing pseudo-Christian words with German nationalism. Hitler was personally an occultist based on Germanic/Norse mythology. He hated true Christianity because it had a basis for standing up to him and saying "NO!". Which gets me back to my original question, who gets to say that Hitler was any better of a human being than Mother Teresa? In Darwin's economy, Might makes Right!
Hitler was most definitely a Christian and made many speeches explicitly mentioning his faith. I can quote some if you like as there are many. And congratulations, Sister! You actually get to say that Mother Teresa was a better human than Hitler. So do I as well as anyone with a rational mind and the ability to evaluate evidence. You avoided my question sister. Your supposed god had the power and ability to prevent this tragedy, to save the lives of those children and teachers and he chose not to. Why is that? I am awaiting your answer.
Who has the ability to say who has a rational mind? Based on what set of values? How do you know those made up values represent the ultimate truth? You can't say "well because we in the collective have rational minds and abilities". Because plotting murder, running dictatorships, suppressing women is done day in and day out by those who arrived at that set of values the same way as you have. And as Darwin would say "let the strongest survive". Might makes right.
And you really haven't got a clue about your Hitler history. Most despots throughout history have invoked "God" when explaining to their dimwit populace as to why they are taking over as part of the "divine right of kings". Even American presidents do it to this day!
I'm sure you could cut 'n paste some more stuff to prove a point you'd like to make. You're pretty good at that. What you aren't so good at is understanding the historical and political context. So please don't waste your time on more cutting and pasting.
Sorry, sister. Natural selection is a fact. It has been proven scientifically and is documented by volumes of research as has evolution. As far as Hitler is concerned, that is a fact also.
We are a people of different faiths, but we are one. Which faith conquers the other is not the question; rather, the question is whether Christianity stands or falls.... We tolerate no one in our ranks who attacks the ideas of Christianity... in fact our movement is Christian. We are filled with a desire for Catholics and Protestants to discover one another in the deep distress of our own people.
It will take Christianity, as the basis of our collective morality, and the family as the nucleus of our Volk and state, under its firm protection....May God Almighty take our work into his grace, give true form to our will, bless our insight, and endow us with the trust of our Volk.
We were convinced that the people needs and requires this faith. We have therefore undertaken the fight against the atheistic movement, and that not merely with a few theoretical declarations: we have stamped it out.
Those are all quotes from Adolf Hitler and there are many more. He was a Christian, Sister. If that bothers you, it's not my problem.
If I had the power to have prevented that massacre, would I? Of course. But then I would have the power to prevent all evil acts and thoughts and so I would do that also. And then I would have taken away everyone's freedom of choice and then everybody would be involuntarily enslaved to me. But since all I want is to love people and for them to voluntarily love me back, I would have realized that even if nobody had free will, they would still have control over whether they loved me back or not. The one thing you cannot make another person do is love you.
Congratulations, once again, Sister! According to your answer, you are more moral than god. Having the power and ability to prevent evil and choosing not to is not moral no matter how you want to rationalize it with the "free will" argument, which has been debunked to death by the way. I can do it here again in this forum, if you like.
It's obvious that you have nothing to do this Glorious Holiday season but hang around here determined to get the last word. But if you believe in Nothing, then that's what God has permitted you to believe. Debunkers are a dime a dozen and most of them are closet Satan worshippers whether they know it or not. As for me, I'm behind on my celebration of the Coming of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ!
The problem with your claim that Hitler was a Christian is that if you are truly a Christian then you believe that the Israelites are truely God's chosen people and you would not make every effort to annihilate them as Hitler did.
I beg to differ. Under Christianity, practicing Jews will be going to hell as they don't believe that Jesus is the messiah and reject the plan of salvation as outlined in Romans.
You cannot be serious.....believing that the Jewish people will not make it to heaven because they refuse to recognize Jesus as the Messiah is a far cry from using every means necessary to annihilate them.
People have used their faith, be it Christianity, Islam, whatever to commit horrendous acts for centuries. By the way, what does Jesus intend to do with non-believers when he returns? Annihilate them, right?
USTPC - excellent response. Billybob had a good verse, but chose to ignore the message
= "*Samaria shall bear her guilt, because she has rebelled against her God; they shall fall by the sword, their little ones shall be dashed in pieces, and their pregnant women ripped open*." When you rebell, deny, and choose not to believe after you have been provided the opportunity to accept Christ, is a specific way to bring God's judgement. Not our judgement.
Consider we already have a commandment and a law that says "Thou Shall Not Kill." Short, direct and to the point. Listening to those who advocate more gun control laws, and trying to ban certain guns is a futile attempt to punish the innocent law abiding gun owners.
Also consider the push to put Christianity in a darkened closet, yet say nothing for the creeping in of radical Islamic teachings which actually advocates killing the non-Islamic believers. Where do you expect a society to wind up when this is happening right in front of our noses?
Right, we have had that law (Thou Shalt Not Murder) for several thousand years. The very ones that will want to pass new (unenforcable) laws are the same ones who said "you can't legistlate morality" when dealing with moral behavior
You have selected one verse out of many. God ordered and ordained the killing of children for many things - being disrespectful, disobedience. Heck, he killed 42 children for making fun of a bald prophet.
Here is the sickness of your faith. Had that shooter looked around that school and saw the horror he had just committed was overcome with guilt and got on his knees, confessed that he was a sinner and asked Jesus to save him before putting the final bullet in his own head, he would be in heaven today. However, if the young teacher who died shielding her students with her own body had never accepted Jesus because she found insufficient evidence for such belief, she would be in hell today. Do you not recognize the sickness and immorality of such belief?
Actually billybob had he asked forgiveness and then killed himself he would not be going to heaven because he committed one final murder for which he could not ask forgiveness....his own.
Under most Christian teaching, it is not necessary to ask forgiveness for each individual sin. One must merely acknowledge and confess that they are a sinner and accept salvation through Jesus.
Actually it is a continuous process of asking for forgiveness for our sins because we are all sinners. The belief that once saved always saved is not valid.
Unfortunately I have to agree with Billybob on this one. Not many Christians believe that you "miss heaven" if you havent asked for forgiveness for all of your sins before you die.
You get in a car wreck, yell a profanity and then die. You are saying that you go to hell?
For saying a cuss word no...for killing yourself...absolutely.
If you don't mind my asking, what denomination are you? The reason I ask is because most do not hold a teaching that suicide is a universally damnable sin which is what you are advocating. In fact, what you are suggesting is that if one of these parents who is Christian, found the murder of their child so tormenting that they killed themselves, they would go to hell. You would find very few Christians who would accept that notion.
I think it is a very slippery slope you are walking down if you distinguish different levels of sin. I was always taught that blasphemy was the only sin that is to be distinguished from the others. Basically blasphemy can be viewed as rejecting the Lord.
You are correct. And that further illustrates what is wrong with Christianity. Blasphemy is a worse sin than murder.
Of course it is because you are rejecting your Lord and Savior. There is no worse sin that you can commit than that.
I would submit that murder is worse. Theft is worse. Assault is worse. Choosing not to believe in a 2000 year old book relating a story of miracles and human sacrifice is certainly not worse than those things.
When I say that I do not believe in once saved always saved is that some people believe that once they accept Jesus as their savior and repent then they can continue to do whatever they want, when they want, how they want and to who they want and they will still go to heaven. You not only have to repent and accept Jesus as your savior but you have to strive everyday to follow the teachings of the Bible.
You cannot accept Jesus as your Savior and then continue to cheat people in your business, look at pornography, steal from your neighbor, commit adultary, etc. and that just because you once accepted Jesus you are saved forever. That is not how it works.
I will try to clarify a little better. I was responding to your example of the killer asking repentence and then killing him or her self. If you just killed a person or multiple persons and asked forgiveness for your sins and then proceeded to kill yourself then I believe that you would still go to hell because although you went through the motion of asking for forgiveness you proceed to immediately killing yourself. That screams of false repentence to me and therefore I believe that particular person would still go to hell.
If you have repented and made every effort to follow God's teachings and for some reason you suddenly have mental issues from a blow to the head or medication or some other out of the ordinary reason and take your own life then I think that in that instance you would still go to Heaven. Thus my belief that saying a simple cuss word during a car wreck would not send you to hell after a lifetime of repentence.
But....and this is very important....only God truly knows your heart and only God can judge or condemn you or I or anyone else.
So if the shooter had a sincere realization of his crime as he stood there looking at the bodies and realized he needed Christ and prayed for salvation, and then still overwhelmed with guilt, shot himself in the head, he would go to heaven? And if the teacher who died protecting her students rejected the bible and Jesus for a lack of evidence, she would go to hell? Where do you stand on the scenario as I've laid it out?
Religious views on suicide
Children cope with inconceivable horror everyday and I cannot iamgine how their lives will be forever changed after the incident last week in Connecticut. Why is it so easy for us to have such an outpouring of rage when something like this happens to our children yet we so easily sit back and speak very little or not at all about the horror of what happened to our young at the Dozier School for Boys in Marianna, Florida...when so many lost their lives..........
My heart is breaking for the parents of every child who was taken from them last week but it also breaks for the families of the Dozier School families, whose deaths were so nonchalantly spoken of in the press, as if they did not matter....every child matters........and even tho in each case they were only children....I do believe they mattered....and so I say....what matters is not your competence but your character...what matters is not how many people you knew.....but how many people will feel a lasting loss when you are gone........and I believe many mourn to this day, 50+ years later.
I do not believe there is a need for semi automatic assault guns (or whatever they are called) on the streets but I do believe in some sort of gun control but I also believe that I have a right to own a gun.
Sorry but God has nothing to do with this. Not everyone worships God or the same God. America is a melting pot and God should remain out of our government and schools. That is our right!! If you want God in schools then send them to a private school instead but keep it out of public schools.
If all guns disappeared, evil would always still find a way. Gun control is not the answer, in fact it would probably make it worse. If there were more guns in the grasp of responsible people, some of these tragedies could be reduced. Kill one, before that one kills 20 more.
Security checks, schools locked down, Metal detectors, it's a shame this stuff has to happen, it's only school not the battlefield, but you have to do it to protect the children. Before long they will have the national guard, guarding the schools. Ridiculous.
When I was young, I never liked school, but never had to fear going. Sick, sick people out there.
I do believe there is a move afoot to ban assault weapons and buns with capacity for multiple firing. Thee person who has been left out of the discussion is the assassin's mother. She owned the guns and so far as is known kept them in her house unsecured. Unquestionably she is in part culpable, And she has paid. Sitting here waiting at LGA (bad weather delay) enjoying keeping up on the AH.
Yes, I have not heard a lot about the mother, other than one statement that she was a survivalist and has a large cache of guns. Maybe she was one of those who thought doomsday was coming this week and had her son convinced...who knows? I can still remember the group that was found in the Arizona desert decades ago dressed in the Nike shoes and the black silk like pj's whose leader conviced them the end was near...Heaven's Gate.....remember them? People do some strange things.
You don't need an assault weapon to kill. And you can't legislatively stop crazy people from killing people. Google Bath School Massacre. Only one Winchester lever action rifle and a whole lot of dynamite. 45 killed. 58 more wounded.
Crazy isn't new. We're just more knee-jerk reactive.
Yes, Cartman, it is carzy, for Mr. Kehoe is long forgotten, just as so many have been long forgotten.......their names have not lived on have they? So many lives wasted by so many crazy people for such stupid reasons, and for what? How many people can actually recall the name, say, of the DC sniper, or the Va. Tech gunmen, or the boys who shot up Columbine? Did they want to make a name for themselves? They failed pitifully..and at what price? At the price of the lives of innocent people and among them small children who had their whole lives in front of them.
A huge problem I see in society today, the moms are having babies and casting them aside for someone else to raise in favor of their work careers! This sort of feeling of being unloved and having little or no parental guidance is bound to fester and take its toll in some drastic way. My heart breaks for these families. Wake up moms and take care of your children and help them grow up! (Don't get me start on today's poor parenting!!)
Why is is it just the mom's responsibility to raise and take care of the children? Last I heard you can't get pregnant from a toilet seat. What about the sperm donors? Where is their responsibility? Why not PARENTS WAKE UP AND TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR CHILDREN!! BOTH OF YOU!! Don't just lay this at the feet of the mothers.
Well, if he truly is a 'responsible' father, he's out making a living!! Making the "ends meet" financially is not nearly as important as having children grow up emotionally stable! If the gal can't accept responsibility for her role in this saga, then close your legs! Babies are innocent victims of parents who fail!
Let's keep doing the same thing and expect this sort of violence to end. Better yet, maybe we should give everyone a gun, then we will be super safe.
Take away all the guns from innocent people and be defenseless against those that break the law that will still have their guns to shoot people.
So we keep doing nothing and expect things to get better?
...and I did't say or think that we should, "take away all the guns from innocent people."
Sorry, I misunderstood your statement. Sometimes I recognize sarcasm and sometimes I don't.
Kind of like Sheldon on The Big Bang Theory huh?
That guy's a trip.
That show is hilarious. For the record, I do not think the answer is to take away all the guns.
No no no not take away ALL the guns.....never!! I am not an advocate of that, not at all....but there has got to be some sort of control.
I think you are being sarcastic but that is exactly what we should do. We should follow the same path that Switzerland has followed and that is arm and train every able bodied citizen. There violent crime rate as a result is minimal.
How does the UK handle gun ownership, and what are the stats for gun crimes over there?
Here is your answer if you care to spend 10 minutes watching it.
If the first video I posted wasn't enough here is one about the Australia gun ban.
So do we continue to do nothing?
One has but to look at Africa, and the massacres committed with machettes to realize the gun is far from the culprit it is made out to be. Whole villages were wiped out without the aid of firearms. We need to follow Isreal's example. Arm suitable individuals in each school to deal with just such an attack. No, I don't mean the run of the mill school police that have never heard a shot fired in anger, but competant professionals. Pay them what they are worth, and keep their identity a secret. Yes, there are submachine guns in Isrealy schools, but I doubt you could pick out who was packing them. Isreal's armed andtrained populace is a strong deterent to Terrorism, otherwise it would be far more common in that State.
Not to mention all the suicide bombings that take place.
Africa is comprised of third-world nations. I don't think drawing comparisons between the US and the different African nations is relevant.
Squawker, cut the mumbo-jumbo! I think I know what you are trying to say but I'm not sure you know! God? Satan?
How do they handle gun ownership over in the U.K.? How is that working out?
Our country's experiences with the UK ARE THE EXACT REASON that we adopted the 2nd Amendment when this country was begun. It was pretty high up on the list, too. Right?
Obviously the amendment exists to prevent a totalitarian government from absolute control over powerless citizens who cannot have the option of armed revolt if necessary. Read the founding documents and learn your history. No way we want to give up the 2nd Amendment.
You failed to answer either question.
If the first video wasn't enough here is one on the Australia gun ban.
So glad I left Albany... This has to be on of the dumbest squawks ever.
This has to be the dumbest response ever. This squawk has nothing to do with living in Albany, someone from another city could have submitted this squawk. Maybe you need to move further away, like Alaska or somewhere.
I think it has to do with the content of the posts coming from those presumably residing in the Albany area.
Watching TV today, finding a sure sign of the Apocalypse: Joel Osteen has now become the voice of Christianity to the Nation based on the TV news and talk shows since the trajedy. WOW we sure have fallen a long way as a Nation.
You have that right Sister Ruby.
Why is it that gun control is the go-to solution? As we begin to address the bullying situation in this country, why not mandate psych-social tests for staff and students along with the already mandated immunization, eye and ear tests? There are no more long-term care facilities for mental health patients.There is crisis-stabilization which usually lasts 2-3 weeks, then back to society. Families try desperately to care for their loved ones without moving them into group homes. Group homes are not secure environments, patients can just wander off, after all they are not in jail. Government funding was cut which closed the long-term hospital that was in Bainbridge, Ga. In this latest tragedy, the shooter did not buy the weapons, and if we've learned anything, it is that desperate people do desperate things. I am saddened and devastated by the unnecessary loss of life and pray that the families find some sense of comfort they so will need to endure.
Two videos - one on England's gun ban and one on Australia gun ban - This should be enough to dispel the gun control advocates claims but it probably won't because they do not operate on logic or facts.