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Squawk of the Day - Dec. 21, 2012

"Most of us who believe in gun control do not want to ban all guns. We want to close the gun show loophole that allows people to purchase a gun without a background check and ban assault weapons. I don’t see how any reasonable person could object to that."

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dickyboy 1 year, 4 months ago

No matter what.... the bad guys will always get guns..I will always remember the bank heist in LA years ago when the cops had to go to gun stores cause they were out gunned

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Sherwood_Eagle_Alum 1 year, 4 months ago

We don't have to make it easier for them to obtain.

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Jimboob 1 year, 4 months ago

It's a lesson learned by smokers. Airlines started with a rule that made sense and now you can only smoke in your own home... Only if you don't have kids. That is why gun control and abortion will never make any headway. No one wants to give any because it will be just the start.

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Sherwood_Eagle_Alum 1 year, 4 months ago

I am personally glad that my chances of getting cancer from second hand smoke is lower these days.

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RedEric 1 year, 4 months ago

Most of us who want idiot control don't wish to ban all idiots. We just want to take away all of their communication devices so the rest of us are protected. I don't see how any reasonable person can object to that. Pass the Kool Aid Percy.

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Sherwood_Eagle_Alum 1 year, 4 months ago

I love the irony in your statements.

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bigbob 1 year, 4 months ago

You libtards are so stupid, why is it so hard for your to understand that 98% of these shooting happen in gun free zones. Know the libtards want to make it easier to kill people by making more gun free zones. stupid is as Obumma does.

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Sherwood_Eagle_Alum 1 year, 4 months ago

How insightful of you to fill us in on the government conspiracy against its citizens.

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Sixty 1 year, 4 months ago

I am reasonable and I object. No guns should be banned. Read the constitution.

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daisymae 1 year, 4 months ago

You can try to close the "gun show loophole" but I can assure you the bad guys can still get their guns as they do not care about background checks and the law. And unfortunately for us Law Abiding citizens they can get better guns than we are able to get. Because how many gang members do you think have ever had a background check done? Well aside from those who you see on the news holding their "number" and were let back out on the street. So if you think gun control is the answer, you have your head buried in the sand. I own a gun and see no need to have an assualt rifle unless they are shipping me off to war.

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B4it 1 year, 4 months ago

It's called FREEDOM OF CHOICE. Even though you may not want an assault rifle, does that mean someone else should not own one to reduce their land's feral pig population. If you choose to drink too much at your own home, should we decide to take your car away from you in fear that you may get in it and drive, (because you know there have been many people KILLED by CARS driven by drunk drivers)? Think!

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billybob 1 year, 4 months ago

Interesting. You don't strike me as pro-choice. Good to know.

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FryarTuk 1 year, 4 months ago

It was not a "bad boy" that killed the kids in CT. It was a monster.

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LoneCycler 1 year, 4 months ago

The entire "assault weapons" ban is completely bogus. Just because a rifle has a pistol grip, a flash suppressor and black plastic furniture doesn't make it an "assault weapon." That's like thinking Honey Boo-Boo is another Shirley Temple because she also wears dresses and gets her hair done. The squawker is quite clueless.

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agirl_25 1 year, 4 months ago

But.......do we agree we have the right to bear arms BUT there has to be some sort of control?

We just can't decide on what control, right?

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Bulldawg 1 year, 4 months ago

Assault rifles should not be demonized just because of the recent mass shooting at Sandyhook. The Son of Sam killer used a Charter Arms Bulldog 44 Magnum snub nose pistol. There never was a ban on Charter Arms Bulldog pistols. I don't see the logic in banning assault type wepons. My heart goes out to the families of the victims in the shooting. Now, more than ever, Americans should contine to be able to own guns to protect themselves and their families from crimminals and other low lifes.

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Sherwood_Eagle_Alum 1 year, 4 months ago

What is the purpose of an assault style weapon?

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whattheheck 1 year, 4 months ago

In the CT case, the shooter is not the one who bought the gun. This is the case with most of the younger shooters, the purchase was by one who could pass any background check. This you can't stop, a legal gun going into another's hand also legally or by theft.

The owner of the gun, who was "sane" should have known better than to let one she knew to be "loosely wrapped" in the same house with a gun she bought. A very bad decision that she and others all paid for dearly. You cannot control "bad decisions" made by "good people". More "mental help" from the government isn't going to stop those who "snap" and go on a rampage.

This guy could have killed many kids with a .22 or a 12 gauge or as is done in China with a knife. Anything can be a weapon in the hands of one who wants to kill--Lizzie Borden's family learned this many years ago but we never banned axes! The government can pass all the laws it wants and try to control anything it considers a weapon but it won't stop all people intent on killing someone. It would help, however, if the 24/7 news people provide these nuts with less coverage so perhaps there won't be as many nuts cropping up to outdo the last one.

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VSU 1 year, 4 months ago

Bottom line is any person will get ahold of a gun if they want one bad enough. Plain & Simple! All the laws in the world will not prevent it.

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whattheheck 1 year, 4 months ago

Right as can be! And one thing is for sure, any law Congress passes on any issue is expensive and accomplishes very little for what was intended. Those guys are just trying to make the mindless think government is taking care of them--but it is always while the treasury is being looted by friends and friends of friends. Government doesn't solve problems, it creates them!

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bubbasmithredneck 1 year, 4 months ago

True....if Psychos like VSU continue to roam around and get guns, the world is in trouble.

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VSU 1 year, 4 months ago

You don't have to worry about me roaming around getting guns, I've got my own gun and I have no plans of shooting it unless someone tries to break in my house, maybe that someone will be you. VSU shoots bubbasmithredneck aka coachjohnson42..... that has a nice ring to it. You're the jackass sicko the world needs to be worried about along with that ugly perverted son of yours that was in here yesterday with those child porno pictures. You are a real sick person coach, you're a poor excuse of a father breeding an ugly mug like that. Funny thing is, he probably doesn't even know who his daddy is, is he in for a disappointment when he finds out it's you. He'll be begging for the electric chair or the firing squad no doubt. You're a sick, sick psycho who doesn't even know himself who he is. Say hello to Auntie Dee for me. She's got a case of malt liquor waiting just for you. Have a nice day!

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bubbasmithredneck 1 year, 4 months ago

When Coach traumatized you.....how did you feel afterwards? Did he really hurt your feelings? He is a bad man isnt he???....well, dont worry VSU...the big bad boogie man is not gonna do it to you anymore!!! I can tell he really really hurt your feelings and he should say he is sorry....... so, dont worry, the big bad wolf is gone away.....ok little buddy????smile!!!

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VSU 1 year, 4 months ago

My feelings have never been hurt. Only thing bad about the coach (you) is his (your) breath and he is (you are) one sorry SOB at least finally I can agree with you. Not worried one way or the other, don't really care, and does that mean you have gone away too? Don't breed anymore sick perverts, and say hello to Auntie Dee once again. I know she thinks highly of you.

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Jimboob 1 year, 4 months ago

As you can see, we can't agree. Neither side will give an inch so in the end nothing will be done. And, of course, the "other side" is to blame for asking too much. We will have this discussion again after the next unthinkable horror occurs... And there will be a next time.

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Sherwood_Eagle_Alum 1 year, 4 months ago

On which side of he fence do you stand?

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chinaberry25 1 year, 4 months ago

What about violent video games? Not one person has addressed that issue. The moral decline started in this country when soap operas were allowed to show anything and everything. It has been downhill for there. And Hollywood loves Obama because he lets them do anything they want. Ban food stamps and welfare and then they will have to get a job and their idleness will be over. They will be too tired to go out and commit these crimes. This person was a rich kid and pampered by his mother. A little discipline would have gone a long way on him. Even handicap kids respond to discipline, so do not make excuses. The mother was getting $25000/mo alimony. He was pampered and rich.

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FlunkyMonkey 1 year, 4 months ago

I steal a gun, shoot up a restaurant, or a school, or a church and you want to ban the gun that I obtained illegally. Okay---You buy a car, go to a bar and get drunk, on your way home you hit a school bus and kill a bunch of kids. Should we ban cars?!!! Another scenario. Same thing with the gun. I steal a gun, shoot up a restaurant or a school or a church and again you want to ban the gun that I obtained illegally. The power goes out in a school or a church or a restaurant. We light candles and set the building on fire killing a bunch. Do we ban candles?

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Black_Falcon 1 year, 4 months ago

Will someone please tell me what an "assault weapon" is? Let us suppose the assault weapon ban (back in the 1990's) was still in effect. The gun that was used in CT was not on the list of banned weapons. So in other words, the solution to the problem is to enact a ban on weapons, that does not include the weapon used in the incident that causes us to need a solution in the first place. Confusing, isn't it. I can't follow the logic either.

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ilovealbany 1 year, 4 months ago

Funny how no one is mentioning Columbine...the one that kinda started all the Mass Shootings, the one that the media has tragically made famous...it happened in 1999. RIGHT DURING THE MIDDLE OF THE LAST "ASSAULT WEAPON" BAN (1994-2004).

On April 20, Harris was equipped with a 12-gauge Savage-Springfield 67H pump-action shotgun, (which he discharged a total of 25 times) and a Hi-Point 995 Carbine 9 mm carbine with thirteen 10-round magazines, which he fired a total of 96 times.

Klebold was equipped with a 9 mm Intratec TEC-9 semi-automatic handgun with one 52-, one 32-, and one 28-round magazine and a 12-gauge Stevens 311D double-barreled sawed-off shotgun. Klebold primarily fired the TEC-9 handgun, for a total of 55 times.

One had guns that met the ban requirements, one did not.

Please explain how the ban helped at all.

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Black_Falcon 1 year, 4 months ago

Thiis is what I am trying to figure out. I am all for solutions, but the solutions should (at least) address the problem and not be knee-jerk reactions because the public is demanding that somebody "do something."

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Sherwood_Eagle_Alum 1 year, 4 months ago

He probably obtained the guns a few years earlier when there was no ban.

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FryarTuk 1 year, 4 months ago

The legal definition of "assault weapon" has been intentionally obfuscated. Look at the 20 grade school children's bodies along with the unarmed teachers' bodies riddled with bullets. Learn the weapon of terrorism used and begin with that. This is not complicated. There are no constitutional issues here. The issues have nothing to do with gun control we are talking about assault weaponry. The discussions have been had. Look at the facts and crimes, the restrictions have been effective. The evidence is in. It's time for Congressional trogs to do their jobs and press the point!

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RedEric 1 year, 4 months ago

QUESTION!! - if an "Assault Weapon" law is passed. Couldn't you then define that any firearm could be used to assault someone and therefore would be an assault weapon? Most people instinctively recognize this as a possibility and fear a ban.

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ilovealbany 1 year, 4 months ago

Muskets were the "assault weapon" of the day when then constitution was written. Please do not forget this country was founded by a bunch of citizens whom primarily manufactured their own "assualt weapons" and used them to defeat a tyrannical government (that also possessed the greatest army and navy of its time). Hence the 2nd amendment...to keep private citizens and the Government on an even playing field. If you don't like it, move to Australia.

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erudite 1 year, 4 months ago

Ban the sale of bullets. Make gun owners make their own bullets. You want to kill something so much, make the ammo.

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VSU 1 year, 4 months ago

Same stupid idea as banning guns. The same people will get access to bullets just like the guns. Just another version of the same argument.

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B4it 1 year, 4 months ago

VSU - all of the logical arguments that have been made here about why it is necessary to fix the root problem, and not try more unworkable gun ban laws, makes me think this may have been how it was when Noah tried to tell the shallow-minded uninformed people about the impending flood that was about to rain down on them. They laughed at him, refused to listen, and continued their mindless rants until they were wiped out.

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VSU 1 year, 4 months ago

I think bullying and people that don't feel they fit into society has a lot to do with some of it. Take Columbine, wasn't it said they were tired of being picked on and laughed at? There were some smaller shootings in Georgia where the student was tired of being picked on, not saying this is the reason in all cases, but I believe that and mental instability accounts for a lot of it, just like that psycho that did the shooting in Arizona that shot Mrs. Gifford, that guy looked mentally disturbed.

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Cartman 1 year, 4 months ago

1927 Bath School Massacre. A Michigan school blown up by a madman. 45 killed. 58 wounded. There was no public outcry to control or outlaw TNT. There was no knee-jerk reaction to blame the explosive.

Because a crazy guy was to blame. No one else. Not the manufacturer of the TNT. Not the other farmers and businesses who also lawfully and responsibly possessed TNT.

But this was before assault rifles were invented. And before the internet and cable news networks. This was before nanny state government which is drunk with control and micromanagement.

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ilovealbany 1 year, 4 months ago

Actually, there were way cooler fully automatic guns available to anyone with the money for them back than!

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Jimboob 1 year, 4 months ago

To he!! with bans on any type of weapon... Let’s ban bullets. No more sales of bullets, powder, or the ingredients to make powder. In a few years the weapons become clubs.

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B4it 1 year, 4 months ago

Then we can start working on banning the clubs!!! Get the point?

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VSU 1 year, 4 months ago

Then we can start banning steak kinives, pillows, gasoline, rope, baseball bats, steel pipes, anti-freeze, bow and arrows, brass knuckles, pitch forks, sledgehammers, crowbars, clawhammers, bricks, cinderblocks, chainsaws, axes, pens, pencils, machetes, cars, trucks, frying pans, golf clubs, water........

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Sherwood_Eagle_Alum 1 year, 4 months ago

Pleas see my comment from yesterday's squawk on the difference between guns and these types of "weapons."

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VSU 1 year, 4 months ago

I didn't read your comments from yesterday, nor did i go there today, but I can say any of those objects listed could be used to kill people and a lot of people if the killer is determined enough and can do it without getting caught. Banning guns will not be the solution I don't care what spin anybody puts on it. As some would say "You don't take a knife to a gunfight" End of discussion.

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Sherwood_Eagle_Alum 1 year, 4 months ago

Others would say, "what a maroon." :)

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Black_Falcon 1 year, 4 months ago

From what I understand CT has an "assault weapon" ban. This ban has been in place for years.

The 10-ton elephant in the room is that what makes America great, the freedoms we enjoy, also makes us vulnerable. No one wants to feel helpless or powerless. We don't want to feel as though we are at the mercy of our fellow man, but we are. History has shown us that gun control will not solve the problems we face as a nation, but it makes "some" feel better. They "feel" safe. But it is a false security. With freedom comes risk. We as a nation must come to grips with this. Case in point, all of the DUI, speeding and other traffic laws will not prevent dozens of people from dying on the highways this holiday season. Neither will all of the gun control laws prevent the next tragedy from happening.This is a reality we must come to grips with.

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FryarTuk 1 year, 4 months ago

Again, the issue at hand is not gun control. 20 children all of whom were about six years old, cut to pieces like chopped liver. Blood, brains, hair, bone, cartilage all scattered and spattered. No second ammendment conflicts here. Stop the production, sale, possession, transporting of weapons of assault and terrorism. No body on their rational bearing could argue against it. The Congress needs to press the point.

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Abytaxpayer 1 year, 4 months ago

Fryar nice picture you painted.....you just miss one tiny point. You have done nothing to stop the mad man who made this happen....What you propose will only drive the madmen to find another way to kill.....until you stop the madman you have not solved the problem

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Sherwood_Eagle_Alum 1 year, 4 months ago

Well put, FT. It doesn't happen often, but I feel we are on the same page on this issue.

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tommybeall 1 year, 4 months ago

most of these daily posters make a case for retroactive abortion.. forget gun control...

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