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Now lets see how this works. First claim WIC, then Food Stamps (State Card), then claim SSI for each child, be it for ADD or Asthema, then claim a dead individual was the child's Daddy so you can file for survivor benefits for the children, lets not forget housing assistance and Medicade and pretty soon your making as much as a Miller / Coors Forklift Driver.
SSI applications and claims have to be evaluated prior to an approval/denied status. Also, SSA requires certain legal documentation(dna test, court documents) verifying paternity before survivor benefits are approved.
Individuals cannot receive benefits just by walking into the SSA office.
Excellent point Walt. It make one wonder why they should ever work for a living. A half century ago Sen. Everet Dirkson said about Pres. Johnson's Great Society; "If you pay people to be poor, you're going to have a lot of poor people."
Apparently there are enough people following this route that have been successful, because it is common knowledge out in the Public. Now I don't know if many folks are successful, but I would sure be interested in the total number of SSI and SS benefit recipients in what we call the Welfare class. Especially from the number of Squawkers referring to ADD and Asthema Payments.
Obumma is destroying this country from inside & these stupid libtards love him. You know he will always get the black & illegal vote but what is scariest is how many dumb a$$ whites are out there.
You are all right... we should kick them all out and let them starve.
“If this is going to be a Christian nation that doesn't help the poor, either we have to pretend that Jesus was just as selfish as we are, or we've got to acknowledge that He commanded us to love the poor and serve the needy without condition and then admit that we just don't want to do it.”
Do you really believe there are that many people that really need assistance? Most of these people are not poor, they are just sorry lazy people that don't want to work and intentionally live this way to leech off the government. Some will actually get a job but still steal from the government by getting food stamps and welfare checks.
For the few that are legitimately poor and/or handicaped yes they deserve assistance, but not the lazy ones that simply don't want to work. If they are able to produce babies, they can get their sorry lazy @$$ a job.
Some of these so called poor people are living better than the people that work for a living and are still poor. These people that work and barely make it do it because they have pride and respect for themselves.
Jesus also said "he who WILL not work shall not eat". Did you ever hear of the christian work ethic? Christ had no tolerance for lazy moochers. Charity is when you give DIRECTLY to the needy. It does you as much good as the recipient. In our case the government gives and we are labeled heartless souls for complaining.
Jesus did not say that...thessalonians/3-10
Jimboob, Quit blaming Christians. There is such a thing as PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY. These individuals MUST make an effort to help themselves and STOP relying on handouts. I don't care if they pick up trash on the side of the road, but they MUST make an effort to earn what they are being given.
I "serve" the poor by showing them methods of helping themselves that don't rely on government handouts. THAT'S WHAT BEING A CHRISTIAN IS ALL ABOUT.
OH and I have no issue with individuals who are retired, physically disabled, or mentally disabled receiving benefits when the disabilities prevent them from holding down a job. Being LAZY DOES NOT equate a disability.
Read your Bible. The Bible states about you will always have the poor, but it also states about a man caring for his family. If he does not do it, then put a yoke around his neck and cast him into the sea. Do not put that Christian babble on me. I am a Christian and it says nothing about feeding and clothing all these out of wedlock babies. The Bible also states their families taking care of them. It also talks about fornication. It also talks about refusing to work.
There are those who are working their tails off and in need of some assistance (food stamps for example) since by the time they pay their bills ON TIME every month, there is hardly anything left for groceries. I am not talking about buying steak and lobster, but hamburger. It is the ones that don't need assistance and have nothing wrong with them other than laziness that is stopping those who really need the help from getting it.
The individuals who should receive assistance are the disabled, those living with a chronic medical condition and the elderly. If the system were corrected to reflect these 3 groups, you would see less illegitimate children and more people working. It would possibly be a nice, balanced society.
All forms of welfare costs this country over one trillion per year. Nearly half is fraud. Ben Franklin said "give people without investment (property) the right to vote they will vote themselves free beer". A woman with three who has all forms of welfare receives service that value over $60,000 per year. In Hawaii welfare is worth over $17.00 per hour, if they worked. You would have to be paid over $20.00 per hour to make it worth leaving welfare.
Do you know how these programs work? It is the state that divvies up the money, not the Feds.
Do you know that GA pays one of the lowest minimum wages in the country? 2$ BELOW the Fed minimum b/c of it's status. Working 40 hours in GA at 5.15$ leaves those families of 4 under the poverty level. Many in DoCo, Lee and Worth are new recipients, receiving benefits after Cooper and others closed their doors.
There are NO jobs in this area; who are we kidding? The Squawks of poor service may be those servers who, BY LAW, have to work in order to get benefits. Employers get TAX BREAKS for hiring people off the dole. If there people have never worked or seen anyone work, how do they learn how to work to your wanna-be-middle-class standards? Now the folks who worked at JCarino's are out of work....what next?
I keep seeing "Get a job and earn it." Have you tried to find a job recently?
There are literally hundreds of jobs in the surrounding area listed in southwestgeorgiahelpwanted.com They are advertising 24/7 on local radio. A very poor and irresponsible excuse which once again is divorced from facts.
There are hundreds of jobs listed at that site. Two issues: access to a computer (yes, I know the library has them for free--will the librarian take the time to teach one how to use it?) and access to a radio. The folks of whom Squawkers imply do not listen to a radio and probably could not tell you where a library was.
The biggest issue? thousands are out of work. Did you read the requirements for some of those positions? The employer will be hard pressed to fill locally. Remember, many are graduates of the DoCo educational system....'nuff said there.
It would be so nice to hand someone a job the next time their hand is out for a check. Not going to happen. Would you rather people receive no assistance? How do we know whether someone is lazy and collecting or someone who is collecting and already working? Will there be a test?
why is it you Neo-cons always harp on poor people on social welfare? why don't any of you have any complaints about the subsidies paid to corporations that make billions in profits? in the time it takes you to bitch about some poor person buying a cart of groceries, Exxon has walked away with $10,000. Betcha don't hear about that on "fair-and-balanced Faux News. So, you still want to talk about people who don't need it taking government handouts?
whodat is a perfect name for someone sticking up for lazy a$$ moochers. Don't really blame you your useless prez is making easy to get paid for doing nothing, oh except vote for him & all the libtards.
I don't consider you poor. I consider you blood sucking leeches. Take away your freebies and 95 per cent of you would work. " A waste is a terrible thing to mind"
And in the time Exxon earned $10k it was employing many thousands of well paid workers and paying gobs of taxes while creating many more jobs "down the line" doing the same thing. There is a difference in working to make money and working to avoid work, we are long on avoidance these days.
I didn't say Exxon "earned" $10K, I said it was accepting government subsidies.
"– Exxon received an estimated $600 million in annual tax breaks. It paid just a 13 percent federal tax rate. (on earnings of $35 BILLION)"
The government didn't give Exxon anything; they just didn't take it. By that rationale, the jackass that broke into my house last week and stole my TV actually gave me a sound system because he didn't steal that, too.
Back to the squawk, we have already been overwhelmed. As you may have noticed, talk during the fiscal cliff debacle never mentioned even a scare tactic on cutting one penny from the vote-rich social welfare programs, those where there was never a pretense of an earned benefit. We are in a Hitler-in-the-bunker mentality, where it is get what you can before the collapse and burn the rest in the process.
O.K. Try this one on -- I work for one of Albany's largest employer's. I also work with an "under 50" nice lady. Her story, of which she is so proud, is that she has legal custody of her nine (9) grandchildren so that she gains monies each month for their care. This sounds good right? The children have never lived with her. They live with their respective parents. Three with their "never married Mom", who is un-employed drawing taxpayer's welfare monies.. Two with their respective married parents- Dad works for the afore mentioned large, well paying employer and Mom is a school teacher. Four live with their unemployed Mom and the City employed Father of #3 child. I give him credit there. So--where is the problem?
You should contact the DFCS Fraud Hotline to report the abuse. Just give the nice lady's name and the investigators will do the rest.
I can tell you have never reported any suspected fraud. You suddenly become the problem, and you will get told you have no viable proof, only inuendo. In other words, they will not get out on the streets to see what your eyes are seeing, and will question what you claim to have seen. It is almost as if they expect you to Video and make the case for them before you report it. Then when they are caught, very little is done because it would harm the children. If you remember back a few years ago, several were caught. No recovery was made and I do not believe anyone got any meaningful punishment out of it.
Walt is correct! Those who dispense money and ask for fraud to be reported are only fulfilling a mandatory requirement. Looking for those who commit fraud is an absolute joke with most government agencies, state or federal. But whattheheck, give it a try and you might just push the magic button!
I beg to differ whattheheck....back in the late 80's and early 90's when I was working as a visiting nurse with another lady as mean as me and as mad at the way the system was worked.... you could say we did a reverse sting. There were people in power who were cheating the system so she and I decided to expose them....3 of them. One was sent to prison for charging residents of public housing a set monthly fee of $5 for "maintenance"....for absolutely nothing. Can you imagine how hard it was for some of those elderly to come up with $5 each month and can you imagine how much he was pocketing from a group of public housing residents that numbered in the hundreds? Another had a county job and was exposed for being a member of the KKK...he was banished from the county. One woman was in a high position in a state job....and was cheating the very people she was supposed to be helping. She had a real racket going...she and her farmer husband. My friend and I gathered information for months and months and called the GBI and had them come to my home at night, and they did, and we never told anyone. They allowed the wonderful Christian lady hahaha........to retire rather than press charges against her and she made restitution to the families involved and to this day I am sure my friend and I are the only 2 who know why the awful cow retired. She died a few years ago and if there is a hell I am sure she is there. The man who went to prison was only in a short time, made restitution, was released and has died. The man who was banished is up north somewhere working last I heard.
As you say, over 20 years ago. Try it now. And it sounds like the cases you mention also involved stealing from recipients which is likely regarded as more serious than stealing from the source of funds. Not saying it can't be done but using the DCSS school lunch fraud as an example, what was the outcome?
There is so much stealing today, from the highest in office (re: the DCSS as an example) to even the lowest (clerks in stores who will take the EBT cards and swipe them and give change back illegally) that it seems it is a losing battle. I have given up. For years I did everything I could to fight the battle of fraud anywhere I saw it, then said the hell with it..."am I the only one who gives a damn?" and gave up. Now I am sticking my head in the sand. I am afraid to say that in my old age I just don't give a rat's rear anymore. Go ahead and sling your arrows at me..I don't care...I have paid my dues...I tried but I am tired of trying...it is time for me to sit back and enjoy the time I have left and stop worrying about the rest...I don't want to wake up someday and say.."where the hell am I and what the hell am I doing in this handbasket?"
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