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Squawk of the Day - Feb. 10, 2012

I'm 70 years old. My company is broke, laying off 32 employees. For the first time in my life I won't pay any income taxes. A calm comes over me. I won't contribute a dime to the welfare and entitlement group. Socialism now. Cuba next. Reality sets in. Good news? I get to die soon.

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justme 2 years, 2 months ago

For being 70 it seems as though you don't care any more. I hope you die in peace.

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waltspecht 2 years, 2 months ago

I believe he is referring to the review panels for health care when he referances he gets to die soon. I also share his thoughts of not supporting the entitlement class. It would feel good to know I wasn't contributing to generations living off the Government dole. A helping hand is one thing. A permanent vacation is something else.

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Jimboob 2 years, 2 months ago

You people are so full of it... Too much Rush.

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agirl_25 2 years, 2 months ago

Please elaborate on the comment, Jimboob.......we are so full of it, and it being what exactly? I am curious. What is the too much Rush that you speak of? I kind of think I know but wish you would elaborate. Thanks.

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daisymae 2 years, 2 months ago

It is not a vacation for this entitlement group...they consider it their job. They call those checks their paycheck but unlike you and I that risk a company laying off or closing, they know they will get their "paycheck".

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FlunkyMonkey 2 years, 2 months ago

Case in point as to the entitlement group--the young lady on the news last about giving birth to her FOURTH child in an ambulance. Wonder where she works (if she works) and does she have insurance (other than Medicaid). Bet not--Retire and rest in peace Squawker. You have EARNED the right to your comments.

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agirl_25 2 years, 2 months ago

I didn't see that but understand how you feel. Why is it the news always seems to make such a big deal out of that? You hit the nail on the head about that I bet.

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Black_Falcon 2 years, 2 months ago

I suggest people read the book "Take the Rich Off Welfare." This book factually details how entitlements given to the poor pale in comparison to those given to the rich. Because we don't see the billions (of tax dollars) given to coorporations, we remain silent. However, because we "see" the EBT cadrs and we "see" government housing, we complain and pass judgement. Am I saying people should make a living off of welfare and government assistance, of course not. But what i do know is you can add up all of the entitlement programs given to the poor and it wouldn't come close to the "incentives" given to the 1% of income earners in this country. Emotional and biased rhetoric is fine for these types of blogs, but facts should be included from time to time to keep things in proper perspective.

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Parent 2 years, 2 months ago

I totally agree! No one EVER speaks on this issue!

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waltspecht 2 years, 2 months ago

Just what incentives would you give the very rich to keep investing their money back into the economy? If they pull it out, you are really going to see a depression. Just think if it all went to tax free offers, instead of just a part of it. Then where would we be? Yes, we give them a good deal, but we also benefit from it by having jobs.

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Black_Falcon 2 years, 2 months ago

How does giving tax breaks to companies that move jobs overseas fit into your equation? Trickle-down economics doesn't work. The rich have gotten richer while the middle class and the poor have been eviscerated. But I guess as long as YOU are working and doing well, everything is okay. Mean while, millions of tax paying Americans have lost their homes and livelihood through corporate greed. We can bail Wall Street out to the tune of Billions, and that’s okay. Helping people who need assistance, NO WAY!!

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Sister_Ruby 2 years, 2 months ago

Studies out just recently prove that the Middle class is shrinking......the reason? They are moving UP to higher income class!! Yes!! Facts!!

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gotanyfacts 2 years, 2 months ago

Neither corporate nor individual welfare should be carried out by the federal government because they give undue power to tthe the politicians. Our nation's founders were aware of the dangers of a federal government that could dominate private enterprise or tax its people for federal duties not expressly given to it in the Constitution. Because we have strayed from the literal meaning of the Constitution and corrupted it, the Federal government now weilds its power almost with impunity. Since FDR we have traded freedoms for a promise of security. A false promise as we see.

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dingleberry 2 years, 2 months ago

You make a good point. At the present, the tax system is used to reward friends and punish enemies and needs to become either the fair tax or a flat tax. Too much of our legislation falls into this reward/punishment scenario and is in fact hidden from public view since it is neither discussed nor understood. We see the evidence of individual welfare every day but don't get to see the other part of the problem--which is also a problem with me.

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agirl_25 2 years, 2 months ago

Excuse me, but I am in my 70th year, as of today (Happy Birthday to me, tra la la), my husband is in his 74th and healthy as a horse, and we living off the guvment entitlements (Social Security)........that we have earned and the benefits (military retirement) that Uncle Sam told my husband he would give him and his family (me) if he served at least 20 years in the military (which he did, plus some). My husband and I pay very little in federal income taxes because of the tax laws that we benefit from. Only $5,000+ of our total income is taxable. Now before you get all huffy, remember I don't write the laws......!!! We pay no Georgia income tax at all because of the very beneficial tax laws to elderly Georgia residents. I feel bad for the person who made the squawk. I would hate to have the attitude that "I am going to die soon." Besides if you are 70 you can draw full Social Security, if you paid in to it, and still work full time and not lose any of your SS. Don't give up.....there is too much out there in the world to enjoy. I must admit it does feel good to know my income tax dollars are zero in Georgia tho and I don't complain as much as I used to about all the waste when I see the welfare mamas with their cell phones stuck to their ears while they are getting their hair and nails done and their kids are running thru Walmart screaming, because I only pay now thru sales taxes but I still try to avoid that as much as possible by shopping online or at the MCLB. I still think it is sad that you say you are going to die soon. I know we are all going to die but why not think living....I know I do....everyday is a lovely gift...enjoy it.

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waltspecht 2 years, 2 months ago

Social Security, earned Medicade, Military Retirement and Tri-care are all earned benefits, not entitlements. An entitlement is something you receive with no input from your labors. I just get PO'ed when folks tell me Social Security is an entitlement. I have been paying in on it since 1961, I kind of think I paid my part of it. While there are folks with invented disabilities (overweight, drug addicted, etc) that are drawing it with very little input on their part.

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agirl_25 2 years, 2 months ago

People need to spend less time on Fox television and more time reading. O'Reilly put out a while back that Social Security wasn't an entitlement and people all over the country are running with it. If you can lay legal claim to a stipend from the government it's an entitlement. Whether someone paid into it or not. The word "entitlement" seems to be a dirty word to some by way of the comments that are made, like it is undeserved. In fact, it means one has a legal right or a just claim to what they are entitled to. It is not welfare, and handout, or aid to the needy, even though the latter may be the case, it is still a just claim, a legal right. Taxes were paid for the purpose of funding the just claims for income when people were no longer able to support themselves without, in this case, Social Security. It is a legal right to security when one is no longer productive And everyone is entitled, has a legal right, and a just claim on the funds when we can no longer sustain ourselves through our productivity.

I would like to see a change in attitude when it comes to commenting on "entitlements". It is not a dirty word. And by the way, I am 100% disabled too.....I have a crushed spine....not of my doing either...so does that make me a lazy slacker that lives off someone's dollar...because I only worked 9 years and am collecting money every month and have for all these years and will for the rest of my life? And another thing, your tax dollars also finance my close to a quarter million dollars in health care costs that have accumulated over the years. Back to my original post..I am entitled to my Social Security check on the 2nd Wednesday of each month and enjoy it a great deal.

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LuLu 2 years, 2 months ago

I have to disagree. To me, an entitlement is something that you've earned and are entitled to because you've earned it, such as SS and Medicare. Things you are not ENTITLED to, but GIVEN out of human decency, such as welfare and food stamps, should be called what they truly are -- CHARITY.

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agirl_25 2 years, 2 months ago

Medicare comes along with Social Security and is something you have to enroll in....if you have other insurance you can choose not to enroll in Medicare. Also you can enroll in Medicare and not receive a Social Security check...it can be rather daunting for some people. My friend is 65 and still working but would lose money if she chose to draw her SS and continue to work so is only going to go on Medicare and hold off on her SS check and use Medicare as a secondary payer as she is keeping her work insurance as her primary coverage. Confusing huh.........?

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VSU 2 years, 2 months ago

My definition of charity is giving to those who are dis-abled Mentally or Physically or any sickness, handicap or disease. Being sorry and lazy, not wanting to work and raising kids for the sole purpose of getting welfare and Food Stamps is not a handicap or a disease.

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dingleberry 2 years, 2 months ago

Politicians have bastardized the term "entitlement" to make it perhaps more acceptable or tolerable, or so they think. I support the definition of "entitlement" as it seemed to start out, not as it has become. Now, it is a term used to thinly veil the more proper term "vote buying".

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gotanyfacts 2 years, 2 months ago

It's not just politicians. Activists of every stripe, but especially the left, have muddled our language to the point where words seem to have opposite meanings. Convenient for those who are attempting to hide their motives.

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waltspecht 2 years, 2 months ago

I am not going to argue Semantics. I use the definition of Entitlement as an unearned benefit, something people feel entitled to, not something they are legally entitled to. That is the current usage of the word. No, I don't watch O'Reily. I never said that I held anyone with a true disability as a freeloader. I stated the invented disability of a drug user, or even overweight people gaining disability due to their own actioins in a large part. Those are the ones I question. I just don't approve of giving a drug addict extra cash to buy more drugs, or an overweight person more money to buy snacks a solution to either problem.

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Oldguy 2 years, 2 months ago

I am 70, unemployed since 12/30/2011 due to lay off. In another 4 months I will have to go through bankrupcy if I do not find a job. Due to my age I can not stand for long periods of time, I can not lift heavy objects, I am blind in one eye noow. I am hunting a job every day, but can not find one that I can do. I can still think, but there is no demand for thinkers in the Albany area. I am not bad off enough physically to gey any kind of disability and that takes a year or more to get. I am going to loose everything that I have worked 55 years for. I do draw Social Security but there is NO way I could live on it alone. What now?

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agirl_25 2 years, 2 months ago

Your situation is the kind that makes me furious, so furious in fact that I want to go out and smack the he** out of the first welfare mother I come across with a cell phone stuck to her ear, with some baby riding on her hip and pregnant with another one by some worthless piece of garbage, while she struts down the street shaking her fat rear end, talking trash to her girlfiend. You work hard all your life and where does it get you? If you haven't already gone to the SSA.gov page please do and fill out the application for disability online. It is a very easy application to fill out and takes very little time and I assure you it is much easier and less of a hassle than dealing with the people in person downtown. There is no penalty for filling it out and filing online and all the paperwork is the same as if you did it in person. My friend did it online (she had spinal stenosis) and it was approved within 90 days and she got 100% disability approved and it was all done online with only one phone call from Birmingham and one doctor visit to a doctor of the SS's office choice. All you have to do is list the doctors you have seen for the problems and then print out permission forms for the SSA to send to the doctors and hospitals where you have been a patient so the SSA can get your records and then wait to hear from them. My friend did it (she had 17 permission forms) and within 3 months she had notification she had been approved and a check for back pay (thousands of dollars) had been deposited in her account. Please dont hesitate. You may be surprised. The SSA may take into consideration the fact of the blindness in the eye and the fact you are unable to life (and age being factored in). It really is a very simple procedure an as I said, much easier than going to the SSA offices in Albany. I also did my disability filing online and it was so easy and was approved within 90 days also. Best to you.

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agirl_25 2 years, 2 months ago

CORRECTION: The SSA may take into consideration the fact of the blindness in the eye and the fact you are unable to LIFT (and age being factored in). It really is a very simple procedure and as I said, much easier than going to the SSA offices in Albany. I also did my disability filing online and it was so easy and mine was approved within 90 days also. Best to you.

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whattheheck 2 years, 2 months ago

I understand the squawkers feeling of not wanting to further contribute to the growing number of those who have been bought by the government check. However, even if not paying income taxes, he is still paying into the cesspool through hidden taxes embedded in or visible taxes added to every product or service purchased. And since he likely owns property, the local government still gets its share through property taxes to use in support of social services and the welfare establishment. The old saying about death and taxes is true.

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agirl_25 2 years, 2 months ago

But what about exemptions.....we get them .....my husband and I get homestead exemptions.....and we get them because of our age....on our property.

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gotanyfacts 2 years, 2 months ago

Don't confuse exemptions which allow you to keep more of what is already yours with receiving someone else's money because politicians deemed it "fair". Much of the rhetoric coming from the left seems to imply that all of America's wealth belongs to the government and whatever it doesn't take, is a gift to you. Note when taxes are lowered on a group, it is reported as the government giving them something. Sort of like a thief feeling gracious because he did not take my DVD's while making off with the television!

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whattheheck 2 years, 2 months ago

There are no age exemptions that give relief from all property tax. Some counties give age exemptions from all or part of the school tax portion (usually about 1/2 of tax bill) but only two are in south GA. There is a state-wide low income exemption on school tax but it is usually worth around $100.

The homestead exemption will not give you a 100 percent exemption on city or co property tax in any county. The part mandated by the state to be given to all as a homestead exemption is worth about $80 in DoCo. Some counties will give more but most are not in our area.

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dingleberry 2 years, 2 months ago

Look closely at your property tax bill and see what you really get.

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Sister_Ruby 2 years, 2 months ago

The Squawker succinctly describing Obama's Vision for America. Thank you, Squawker, and Good Luck and make your Peace With God sooner rather than later.

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Black_Falcon 2 years, 2 months ago

How did George Bush's vision for America work for you?

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Sister_Ruby 2 years, 2 months ago

It was working great until the DEMOCRAT party took over Congress! But thanks for asking! You do realize that Congress is the Body that spends the money? Right?

Congress has been so arrogant and stupid that they haven't passed a US budget for 3 years....but they just kept on spending OUR money ($16 TRILLION and counting....). Competely irresponsible. Yes, that was a DEMOCRAT Majority House and Senate!! The USA cannot survive much more of this BS!!

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Black_Falcon 2 years, 2 months ago

Bush could have VETOED any spending bill he wanted. Right? You do understand the president has VETO power right?

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Sister_Ruby 2 years, 2 months ago

Bush has been gone for those 3 years DUMB@SS!!!!!

And the line item veto is not constitutional UNFORTUNATELY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Bush would not stop progress by vetoing the Whole Thing! But he should have.

Meanwhile your guy, Obama, the Smartest President Ever, thinks He rules like a King. What a disgrace to 200 years of American Pride.

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bubbavet 2 years, 2 months ago

You can harp on the rich all you want too. I ain't never been hired by a poor man or woman. More power to them.

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CJ_Fan 2 years, 2 months ago

Without Rich people we would run out of money for the non-working class too. Without the Rich the non-worker would have no means of support.

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dingleberry 2 years, 2 months ago

How can a reasonable person complain about a person being rich if it is properly gained? And how can a reasonable person not complain about a person on permanent welfare who could work and chooses not to?

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Sister_Ruby 2 years, 2 months ago

Errrboddddy wannabe rich.....just aks them rappers and pro ball players. And dope dealers.

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Black_Falcon 2 years, 2 months ago

Spoken like a true red blooded American. God bless America and no place else.

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Sister_Ruby 2 years, 2 months ago

Just listen to your so-called "music". Clubs, ho's, dope, twenty-sixes, hate. Is that YOUR American way?

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Sister_Ruby 2 years, 2 months ago

I left off bustin' caps on other peeps. That pretty much completes the package of the A A Dream life.

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