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Squawk of the day - March 1, 2012

"The food stamp program, part of the Department of Agriculture, is pleased to be distributing the greatest amount of food stamps ever. Meanwhile, the Park Service, part of the Department of Interior, asks us, "Please do not feed the animals," because the animals may grow dependent and do not learn to take care of themselves."

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Sister_Ruby 2 years, 1 month ago

However, the Parks Service refuses to enforce the Law of the Land and evict the so-called "Occupy" riff raff from public land. Per Obama's request no doubt.

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Shinedownfan 2 years, 1 month ago

Finally, a good Squawk of the Day!

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PatrickY2K 2 years, 1 month ago

This "squawk" was all over Facebook yesterday. It shouldn't be mistaken for an original thought by a Herald reader.

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tocar 2 years, 1 month ago

How many humans that are on welfare or food stamps will take care of themselves? They are dependent on the taxpayers to fund their need to over populate and walk the streets. I am for those that really need assistance for various reasons as related to health or seniors. Our seniors do not receive the assistance they need and those that have become unemployed, but those that refuse to work because of laziness do not deserve it.

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Justice4Moma 2 years, 1 month ago

Someone hit the nail on the head with this one.About time this Entitlement got spoken about.Seems no one in the White house now cares to talk about it,Nor the ones who want to be there next year! Way 2 Go Albany Herald!

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Shinedownfan 2 years, 1 month ago

The herald chose the squawk, but you gotta give credit to the squawker, not the herald!

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coachjohnson42 2 years, 1 month ago

comparing humans to animals is very low.......shows no class

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VietVet1 2 years, 1 month ago

Yep - - those too lazy to work show no class

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Sister_Ruby 2 years, 1 month ago

I was always taught in science class that humans ARE animals?!?! If not animals, then what are they? But I will say that some humans show no more darwinian evolution than dumb beasts. Reference agirl_25's brilliant and insightful post yesterday under the "DA Investigates Teen Pregnancy...." article.

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VSU 2 years, 1 month ago

Some of these animals have more class than some of these humans.

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atina3438 2 years, 1 month ago

I'd say animals have more "class." At least they forage for themselves and don't wait for the government to give them a handout!!!

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chinaberry25 2 years, 1 month ago

Humans are worse than animals. They do because they know no better, but humans know better and still do what they do. They choose to live like animals, They will procreate and have offspring by the dozen and please throw me a bone because I am alive. The Bible tells you if you do not work, you do not eat. I am all for having children, but do not expect your fellow man to take care of them.

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Sister_Ruby 2 years, 1 month ago

Obama says you are your brother's keeper. That's HIS faith and HE is doing HIS best to impose it on you and me and everybody else. HE said so at the National Prayer Breakfast.

It made me puke my grits and gravy.

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Outtahere 2 years, 1 month ago

It is amazing to me the amount of young mothers that are living off the system but we have soooo many seniors that barely get by. Most of the seniors recieve social security benefits meaning that they worked and put into the system, yet because of the monthly ss they will not be qualified for other types of assistance. I have seen a 75 year old lady be denied for energy assistance but a young mother who is ABLE to work but CHOSES not to got her light bill paid because she has NO income. These young mothers should be FORCED to work or their benefits should be cut. Also, there should be a cap off point. It doesn't matter how many kids you have, we should help with two AND THAT"S IT!!!! If you get pregnant again, we will bill you for prenatal and hospital care. Since you have no income anyway, we will deduct it from your tax return, since we know you get SEVERAL thousand dollars for claiming multiple kids. If we started doing it this way, I promise you will see a LARGE decrease in fraud!!!!

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Black_Falcon 2 years, 1 month ago

Malcom X warned Black folk in the early 60's not to accept federal aid (i.e. food stamps, housing. etc.) as he knew, and said, it would promote dependency. He was right.

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Sister_Ruby 2 years, 1 month ago

B_F, in this we can agree..........

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Black_Falcon 2 years, 1 month ago

What??? We agree. Must be a full moon or something.

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waltspecht 2 years, 1 month ago

I have often been told "It isn't the children's fault, they didn't ask to be born." So how are we not going to support these children? They are already here, or on the way. We make no move with any chance of success against the birth mills we call out younger generation. So basically we are between a rock and a hard place. We spay and Neuter dogs and cats as a means to control their populations, with very little success I might add. People think they, and their animals have every right to breed, and someone else should look out for the prodiginy. This outlook has got to be haulted. We don't need to teach children about the joy of sex on every TV channel there is, and that they are missing something because old folks use Viagra just to keep having sex. Somewhere the Clergy, Political leaders and all of us in general have failed this generation and it is almost too late to correct it.

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USTPC 2 years, 1 month ago

I have to disagree with you. If you go on public assistance with three kids then even if you have a fourth, fifth or sixth child you do not get anymore assistance. Have birth control available for free if necessary but do not pay for them having more kids. If they knew up front that they would not get more money by having additional kids I have a strong feeling that they wouldn't have any additional kids.

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waltspecht 2 years, 1 month ago

I'm confused, just exactly what that I said were you disagreeing with?

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USTPC 2 years, 1 month ago

Waltspecht, I understood your post to say that we are obligated to support additional children that individuals have after they go on public assistance because it is "not the child's fault". Granted, it is not the child's fault, but I disagree with an obligation to support additional children created and born after the mother goes on public assistance.

As long as we have a policy in place that says every time you have a child you get more money they are going to keep having kids. We need to take the incentive to have more kids while on public assistance away. We need to make it clear that if you have additional kids while on public assistance that you will not get any more money. Take the incentive to have more kids away and less kids will be born by mother's on public assistance.

If I misunderstood that part of your post then I apologize.

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chinaberry25 2 years, 1 month ago

I thought their was a maximum at one time. Why and when did this change??

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TheBoss 2 years, 1 month ago

More babies put more jingle in their pocket. They are paid to breed.

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Citizen_A 2 years, 1 month ago

I have a friend who due to some hard times has had to get some public assistance. They told me that they understand better how people go on welfare, food stamps, etc. and never get off. Say you do get a job and start making money, the assistance stops. The problem with the system is the income threshold for losing the assistance is unrealistic. With the cost of food, etc. these days, alot of the people can't afford to get a job.

YES, YES, YES there is a definite problem with people abusing it and using it as their job. But there those that want to, but can't get off the system and survive. The system needs some desperate changes...including deterring having children for more money.

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Sister_Ruby 2 years, 1 month ago

The "system" has been designed by Democrats to keep people on the Democrat plantation and guarantee a lifetime of votes for the Democrat party. That's why the threshold you discuss is a DIS-INCENTIVE to get off assistance and work for your own self. This has been a work in progress since Lyndon Johnson in the 1960's. Oh yeah, and we're currently 16 Trillion dollars in debt and will exceed $20 Trillion within 2 years if Obama gets re-elected.

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USTPC 2 years, 1 month ago

I mostly agree with you but I do not think you can leave the Republicans blame free. There has been a republican president in office for 20 (Reagan 8, Bush 1 4 and Bush 2 8) of the last 32 years and during some of that time they had a Republican controlled congress and yet they did nothing to try and solve the problem.

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Sister_Ruby 2 years, 1 month ago

We're pretty much in violent agreement. I laid out the Democrat position on the subject. And yes, the Republicans do not have the backbone to withstand the withering onslaught of their political opponents, the mainstream media, and special interest groups (Jesse Jackson et al) to fix the problem, no matter what their campaign rhetoric says.

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Shinedownfan 2 years, 1 month ago

I know, Bush 2 caved-in WAY too much to the democrats.

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erudite 2 years, 1 month ago

You do know that the state does the allotments, right? It is federal money, given to the state, and the state passes it out. Visit the web pages to do some research on the asset limits to see just how much 'jingle' they receive.

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USTPC 2 years, 1 month ago

As a child I saw first hand what benefits the system could provide. My mother used the AFDC (Aid For Dependent Children) program in the 70's. She was on the system for approximately 3 years, went back to school during that time to get a degree, went back to work and never had to use it again.

The welfare program was set up for that very reason - provide short term assistance to allow a person to get back on their feet and back into the work force. It was not intended to be the permanent source of income which it has turned into.

I strongly believe that we should help out those less fortunate than us and those that fall on hard times like being unemployed because of the bad economy. But, that help should be short term not long term. I would define short term as 5 years or less.

I realize that there are those individuals who are disabled, ill, etc. and absolutely cannot work. They would fall into another category. The ones I am talking about are the healthy and capable of working individuals who stay on public assistance from the time they are 16 to the day they die and then their children get on it, and then their grandchildren get on it, etc.

The system definitely needs to be fixed but like every thing else there seems to be no motivation by our leaders to fix it.

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Parent 2 years, 1 month ago

I agree with your comments! Alot of the people on this site making comments are blaming Obama and Democrats for everything, but Republicans are not doing anything when they are in office either. That just goes to show you how truly racist some of these "closet bloggers" are.

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LuLu 2 years, 1 month ago

If it's a Republican/Democrat thing, wouldn't that make them partiest? How did you get "racist" out of that??

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tywebb 2 years, 1 month ago

parent got racist because people are blaming nobama. didn't you know that, if you don't agree with the campaigner-in-chief, you are racist!?!?

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gradin78 2 years, 1 month ago

Back in the late 80s when my son was born prematurely and was in Macon for many weeks. Both my husband and I were working but had to make visits every day to see our son, and we were struggling to keep our bills paid. We swallowed our pride and visited the DFACS office to see if we were able to receive any help or food stamps. We were ask to fill out a form that required our life history and afterwards were told we could receive $38 a month. I've seen young women, looking perfectly able to work, and little children in tow with two buggies of groceries, yes two, and my husband and I were only able to receive $38 for couple of months. We decided we would do the best we could without the assistance and we made it. This program has long needed some regulation. What is wrong with these young women? How are they able to get away with this? Neither the Dems or Repubs care as long as they are getting their fat paycheck. As I've said before they do not live in the real world, they're too busy flying off to their other home and can't be bothered with serving the people.

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agirl_25 2 years, 1 month ago

You worked..both you and your husband worked...had you been ON WELFARE and had the baby the system would have bent over backwards to assist you. Prime example: we had a patient who was born with a severe heart conditon..his mother was unmarried, 18 years old and on welfare. He required surgery to correct the problem in his heart valves over a period of 18 months, with follow up visits to Atlanta. Your tax dollars not only paid all of his medical bills but provided her transportation to the children's hosptial in Atlanta where he received surgery and follow up care for years, until his death at age 5. During the 5 years his mother stayed on welfare and had another baby, a healthy one, but remained unmarried. She was in subsidized housing. She was provided transportation at times by the Shriner's (a wonderful organization that provides a great service no matter who you are...they help) and sometimes by DFACS. During the 5 years, from 18 to 23 years of age, I must say, the mother did try to improve herself...she went to school and studied to become a nursing assistant but the demands of taking care of her son, and she took excellent care of him, became very demanding, and she had to quit. I don't know what if anything you had to pay in the end because of your son's illlness but this young lady paid not a penny. Everything was covered by Medicaid and in addition she was receiving food stamps, subsidized housing, transportation to and from the hosptial from SOWEGA to Atlanta, and other perks.

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agirl_25 2 years, 1 month ago

I see that a number of you have actually commented on being part of the system (having had a parent rely on public assistance for a short time) but I wonder how many of the others have any idea how some of those who make public assistance a lifestyle live? I worked in all kinds of nursing during my career and the most eye opening of all was home health. You got to go into the patient's home and when you had a long term one you really got to know them and it was a shocker at times. Talk about abuse of the system..talk about shoving it to "Da Man"..! I am sure some of the things I say is going to make people yell "racist, racist" but I really don't give a rat's rear. Remember the good old days of commodity handouts? Remember the 5 pound block of cheese, peanut butter, powdered milk, etc. Then there was the good old WIC program with the truck delivering the goods directly to the door....fresh milk, orange juice, etc. and don't forget the baby formula because we know there HAD to be a baby in the home...just like a revolving door. I found it shocking that the ladies of the household (there were usually only ladies in the home) were out back feeding the hogs a mixture of commodity foods and when I showed dismay at the waste of such food I was told..."we ain't studdin you white folk"....whatever studdin meant. I must admit tho, that some of the DFACS people are just as sorry as the people working the system. I once called on them to come check on an elderly bedbound patient I felt was not being cared for properly. The living conditions were deplorable and her personal care was non-existant. It was a clear case of elder abuse but another case of a family who took her in because she got a small SSI check and to them all it meant was money and someone (our agency) coming in 3 times a week to bathe and care for her, clean her bedsores and make sure she was all right. The DFACS worker apparently had a party to go to after work (it was in late December), she met me about 4 PM, and was dressed in a black party dress, black heels and silver jewelry. She made a face when she walked into the bedroom, as if she was not too happy to be there and declined to sit in a chair I offered, but once again made a face of disgust. She did not want to look at the patients bedsores. We have dug this hole we are in so deep we are never going to get out of it. We have babies having babies and always will....and a government that can't govern and fancy pants workers who can't do their jobs. BTW......I gave up too...I got so fed up I quit...

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Sister_Ruby 2 years, 1 month ago

agirl......again you tell the honest truth and the truth hurts sometimes but EVERYBODY reading what you wrote knows it's the truth.

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TrixibelleBento 2 years, 1 month ago

People like you who did this kind of work are saints in my book. I just couldn't do it. I can't stand to see children, the elderly or pets mistreated and I'm sure you've seen plenty of it.

I think "studdin" was short for "studying". I used to hear that a lot in Dougherty Jr. and High Schools when I was there. "I ain't studdin' you!" I'm sure they're the head of industry today.

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Black_Falcon 2 years, 1 month ago

People tend to forget that we did not always have welfare (i.e. food stamps, WIC, TANF, etc.) and people managed. People relied on themselves and each other for the things they needed for survival, and we as a nation was much better off. Black folk had a sense of pride amongst themselves. I can remember a time when people were actually ashamed to use food stamps because they would be too embarrassed. Imagine that. However, times have changed and morality and responsibility are merely words in a dictionary, not values people adhere to anymore. We (and I know I am painting with a broad brush) feel as though we cannot make it on our own. We need the government or some other type of help. Take the HOPE scholarship for example. Whoa is me if little Pookie and Peanut can’t get a full scholarship. After all they deserve it because they are poor. Correct me if I am wrong, but the HOPE scholarship came into fruition in 1993. What did people prior to that do in order to go to college? Further, what do people who live in states without HOPE do for college tuition? Do they not go to college?

This illustrates how quickly a dependent mindset can take root. Moreover, solving this problem will be tantamount to political suicide. Can’t you hear the commercials now, Congressman X doesn’t care about the poor or Senator Y thinks all children should starve. This is why no political party wants to touch this issue. The best we got was welfare reform in 1993 by Clinton.

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Sister_Ruby 2 years, 1 month ago

and the Republican House and Senate that soon followed in 1994, including a balanced budget and a few more improvements. But they were short lived.

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TrixibelleBento 2 years, 1 month ago

What happened to being "black and proud"? I heard that a lot coming up and it just doesn't seem to exist anymore. It's a shame.

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chinaberry25 2 years, 1 month ago

Allowing all the perks have lured illegal aliens to come over and take jobs away from Americans. The laws passed in Georgia and Alabama have put folks back to work. This is something the states have been saying all along. They are taking jobs away from Americans who will pay taxes and it trickles down to everyone.

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waltspecht 2 years, 1 month ago

Hope has generated more for those living off the programs than the students it is supposed to help. It has created a whole sub culture within the education system that exploits it.

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Sister_Ruby 2 years, 1 month ago

Especially when they took away the grade point credits you get for taking the advanced cources (not the AP ones, they still get extra gp's) in order to "help" the less smart kids get HOPE and rob the kids who were challenging themselves more by taking harder classes and maybe not getting as good a grade. "dumbing down" the incentive....usually what happens wien the government gets involved.

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erudite 2 years, 1 month ago

For those who insist on making this racial, you do realize that whites make up 61% of the welfare rolls, don't you? Perhaps you have never been out of the South so you get a limited view. Since Albany, SW GA in general, is majority black, that they will necessarily make up the largest chunk. However, outside of the South, whites make up the largest category.

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Sister_Ruby 2 years, 1 month ago

But as a percent of the population of the various demographics, what percent of each demographic is on the welfare rolls? If you were to honestly examine those statistics you would make some unpleasant discoveries.

Only the "bit dogs" are bringing up race in this discussion.

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erudite 2 years, 1 month ago

Yes, the percentages are quite telling. Blacks (who constitutes this category anyhow?) are over represented if compared to their percentage of the population and whites are under represented in ratio to percentage of general population.

What gets me is that some Squawkers blame the 'blackness' as the cause and not the history. To these folks, somehow, melanin 'causes' behavior and lack of melanin doesn't.

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Black_Falcon 2 years, 1 month ago

I defend Black folk to the last. The comments I have posted in the past attest to that. However, I am not so blinded that I refuse to call out what I consider self-destructive behavior in the Black community. The first step in solving any problem is to admit that one exists. Granted, I brush aside some comments as being racist, but there are other legitimate comments that people make that we should take note of. On another note, it is true that white people make up the largest overall percentage of people on welfare. But that fact is deceptive. It does not provide a true representation. Whites make up the largest percentage of people receiving assistance because they make up the largest percentage of the overall population. However, (and this is important) when you compare the number of white people receiving aid to the overall White population, the percentage is relatively small. However, when you compare the number of Black folk receiving aid to the overall Black population, the percentage is significant. Now, we can debate why this is so but it is what it is.

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agirl_25 2 years, 1 month ago

I don't make my posts racial. My work experience has only been in the SW Georgia area and the majority of the patients I saw while working in home health were black and the majority who came in the ER were black. And yes, I know whites make up the largest category of those on welfare rolls in the US. I do not consider myself a racist....just someone who is sick of seeing people play the system and by someone I mean those of every color and nationality, even those who use the good old EB-5 program to rip off good old Uncle Sam. So let's not put all the blame on those welfare mothers we see with the babies on their hips for they are not the only ones sucking us dry. Let's thank an inept Congress for that and some of the programs they have created to stimulate the U.S. economy (hahahaahahaha)........through job creation (check out the EB-5 program...job creation for who..for THE FAMILY only....that has the convenience store)...and capital investment by foreign investors.....wink wink wink...(where is your next lottery ticket going to be bought from?)......have a nice day. (Maybe a topic for another day...now I am angry....)

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ObjectiveEyes 2 years, 1 month ago

The late Larry Burkett once said, "...the welfare system has done to the black family unit what 200 years of slavery couldn't...destroy it..." I thought it was a racist, perhaps inflamatory statement at the time. But, if you understand his heart, unfortunately for all, he was right.

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coachjohnson42 2 years, 1 month ago

But there are still more white Americans on welfare than Blacks.......so, what has welfare done to the majority of White Americans???

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Sister_Ruby 2 years, 1 month ago

Why don't you do your Doctoral thesis on that subject, coach?

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Cartman 2 years, 1 month ago

What does race matter? White or black. Quit paying out welfare. It is simply not the government's responsibility to feed and house folks. Just end it.

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chinaberry25 2 years, 1 month ago

What some of you do not know, maybe you do. If an employee hires someone on food stamps, convicted felon or a former veteran, that employee gets big bucks in tax breaks from federal government. If you are trying or your teenager is trying to get a job, forget it. Unless he is on foodstamps. Then McDonalds reaps about $2500 in tax breaks. Middle class kids will never find a job. Nursing homes are socking it to the government. You pay $4000 for 1/2 of a small room and they hire food stampers at minimum wage and get a taxbreak for their coffers. Ain't life grand?

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Cartman 2 years, 1 month ago

We should not be bribing employers to hire folks. We should not be bribing folks to buy electric cars. There is a solution. Just end it. Quit paying incentives; tax breaks; credits; and welfare. It is an experiment that failed. It is socialism. Welfare produces more poor people. It is cruel. It is expensive. End it.

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tywebb 2 years, 1 month ago

the only thing i think there should be tax breaks for are those companies who keep or bring back their business from over seas. Give them an incentive to stay/come back here so we can employ more of our own. don't give them breaks for hiring certain people.

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Abytaxpayer 2 years, 1 month ago

@ Black_Falcon What a profound statement.

“The first step in solving any problem is to admit that one exists”.

Not just for this topic but most all topics, If we could just get people to stop the finger pointing and name calling and say that one sentence FIRST, we could be moving Albany and America ahead at light speed.

Thank You

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