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Ok. So Sherwood decides to spend $16million on a building project that will employ who knows how many local folks along with supplies and you want to whine about it because it won't take care of your kids? Seriously?
You sound racist based on your handle.
I second that!
You can infer what you like. I am, however, not racist. You haven't the slightest inkling what my username means.
Don't worry, I'm not.
Sherwood has $16 million with which to build, doesn't sound like a church anymore...sounds more like a profit making business.
Jealous? It is no money out of your pocket. And no. I am not a member of Sherwood.
Its a world wide ministry an they are doing a fantastic job!
There's a problem with any church who has money or raises money to use primarily for bigger, fancier, more elaborate buildings which will in turn sit idle most of the time. With so many people in need of food and clothes and housing, it's a sin and a shame to spend so much money indulgently on yourself. But of course it's none of our business right?
I agree 100%.
Sounds like everyone wants the $16 million that was just received from the movie to be handed out rather than see some sorely needed jobs created.
"We need more of that free stuff handed out cause that will be good rather than an opportunity to work and learn a trade." Sister Ruby said it!!! :-) Well.......maybe in not so many words BUT that sounds a lot like entitlement to me.
It's good to see the church invest in the community and offer an opportunity to employ some folks. I'm fairly certain for everyone who thinks it's good there will be 10 who will want to say it's bad. They can't win for losing. I'm sure Albany would be a lot better off if they weren't here right?
You guys should stick to the School Board and DCSS bashing where it's better earned.
They were already "employing some folks" with the Daycare "Ministry". Right?
I always thought it was the church's job and the christian way to help those in need. Think of all those missionaries that went out to help the starving people. I never thought of a church as your everyday corporate business, rather as a place to worship. Is Sherwood becoming the christian version of Phoebe? I am not against job creating, but I agree with the squawker to a degree. If they have the money to build all this, they had the money to keep the day care open. If this plan creates jobs, perhaps the extra employed would need use of the daycare.
Having watched "Courageous" yesterday, I have to give Sherwood the benefit of the doubt. They do a lot of good and have been blessed.
And what were your doubts?
SHERWOOD AND PHOEBE SHOULD BE PAYING TAXES.
SHAME ON BOTH THE CHURCH AND HOSPITAL,HIDING BEHIND GOD AND SICK PEOPLE ALL WHILE AVOIDING PAYING TAXES.
I don't begrudge any church's tax exemption for the tithe and donation income they get from the membership, visitors, etc. But to shelter a movie making business bringing in untold millions by calling it a "ministry" is wrong IMO!! Yes in America we're still entitled to our O's!!! At least for now, pending next November's election results. But I'm sure it's all legal. What really interests me is how much proceeds the pastor and staffs are getting into their bank accounts. "Blessings" some might call it.
Nothing but a bunch of haters. They make a movie on a peanut budget so that they can take the money to impact their community and the world around them. Obviously not many of you are connected to this church nor are you likely connected to any church. They are doing good and you all are complaining. I'm glad they don't let the likes of you discourage them from continuing to do good EVEN when it's not in line with your OPINION.
Hey Sherwood. Make a lot more movies and change the world. Maybe Hollywood will take notice that you can actually make a good movie with everyday people to teach some moral lessons without a huge budget and then turn around and give the money back to their local community even when it isn't the way many would like.
Since when do movies change the world? Wow, when you used the word "haters", I thought that was the low part of your post - until I kept reading it!! So, Spike, how are you SO SURE that they are doing good? And by the way, you know YOU have an opinion just like everybody else!
spike you sure seem to think you know a lot. I don't know a lot. I don't hate anyone or any entity. I just ask a couple of questions every now and again and for doing so you seem to feel like it's appropriate to slam me and anybody else who questions. God says "The love of money is the root of all sorts of evil". Yes, He does!
These simple questions have still not been answered. That troubles me. Much money doth corrupt. You assume that a lot of movies would change the world. That's a big assumption. The truth will set you free! God Said It! "None of your business" spike and the church spokesperson said that. See any disparity there?
I ran across this interesting story in my reading this afternoon (Unbroken by Laura Hillenbrand....a True Story). In 1949, Billy Graham went to Los Angeles to hold a tent revival. The revival started slowly but gradually was the talk of L.A. With Graham's "direct gaze, stern jawline, and the southern sway in his voice....he attracted movie moguls who, seeing leading-man material, offered Graham a movie contract. Graham burst out laughing and told them he wouldn't do it for a million bucks a month."
They don't make 'em like Billy very often these days.
Everyone gripes about nothing positive in Albany. Sherwood has used the Lord's talent well. Why does everyone begrudge Sherwood the success it has achieved? And why does anyone who is not a Sherwood member, think they have a right to decide what Sherwood does with the money which God has entrusted to it? MYOB. And no, I am not a Sherwood member, but I am proud they are a part of this community.
What blows my ever loving mind is that people won't just ask a couple of simple questions and expect the respect of an honest answer. You must "Inspect What You Expect" in this world....I don't care who you are and I don't care who is being asked the question. Put your faith in Man and you will be let down Every Time! Think about it, Cartman.
They can do whatever they like with the money. Just be honest about how much is coming in and what are they doing with it and who is getting it? Simple!
I sure some of the people on here will be out at Sherwood's complex enjoying the 4th of July! If you want childcare go somewhere else. Just because they are doing stuff with the MONEY the made dosen't give us the right to have it. Just like you I probably have a video camea.....did you make a movie? Were you in it? Just so you know I'm not a member, nor have I ever been there. I'm also not a hater. If we look at it the way most people on here are......I think we need to run down to all the small churches and raid there offering plates. I mean they are on a much smaller level, but lets get it all. Also, lets take from Sherwood's sister church, Mt. Zion......I'm sure they won't mind either. Thank you for your time and in my opinion I say if they buld it people will come.........BUILD BUILD BUILD. No one else in the Good Life City is.
Nothing to hide? Then there should be no hesitation to make the information public.
http://www.ecfa.org/ which lays out the following principles for evangelical organizations:
GOD-HONORING ETHICAL PRACTICES
Ethical practices which seek to honor God are those practices that:
• Proclaim a Christian witness to the glory of God.
• Reflect generally accepted biblical truths and practices.
• Promote integrity, honesty, and openness in the manner in which the ministry conducts its daily financial and management operations.
• Demonstrate accountability beyond what the law requires.
• Reflect a willingness to do what is right not only in the Lord’s sight but also in the sight of others.
The Albany Herald is awaiting your call, Pastor Catt. Hello??????
P.S. Sister_Ruby is doing God's Work y'all. You'll see.............................
I love you sis, but explain again why they must explain anything regarding the money to you and me?
Can't you read? Integrity, honesty, openness, accountability beyond what the law requires.............Simple!
Gahhhhhhhhhhh do I have to draw you a picture???????????
Surely you remember the Church spokesperson saying ".....being a 501.c.3 we aren't required to provide any information about our income etc etc blah blah blah....." or something of that sort. Case in point.
From their website, 16 million of the 20 million campaign is going to be used on updating and building facilities on their campus. Hello... new daycare space people, for those of you who care. I like many others, have moved on.
Sister, I think it's safe to assume that since the movie ministry is matching dollar for dollar what the congregation gives to the campaign (up to 10 million), that they've have 10 million to part with, on top of what they put back for the next movie.
But hey, I'm just a nobody. Probably way off anyway.
I wasn't at the meeting they decided this on but there were quite a few members there so they aren't secret. The general public will never be satisfied with the disclosure. There will always be someone like our "Sister" who will still question their decisions that they have made through prayerful consideration. I know for a fact that the members as well as the Deacons and Pastor pray fervently for God's guidance in their decisions.
Trusting that God will use His money for His good purposes regardless of what man thinks is one of the most difficult things for us to do.
PS. I think Ruby's right about trying to do God's work. Fortunately He doesn't need our help. We mess it up every time.
spike, I've been around enough Baptist churches to know that "prayerful consideration" and a host of other what I call "southern-fried phrases" are used to justify what the leadership wants to do. Who could challenge God's Will as determined by the Senior Pastor and his hand-selected Deacon Body? It's why I am no longer a Baptist.
It's God's church (no matter the denomination) filled with imperfect people making imperfect decisions. No doubt about that.