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Squawk of the Day - July 7, 2012

"Anita Williams-Brown says we have plenty of good programs in place. Then she tells us they don’t work. A 54 percent graduation rate says it all."

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Abytaxpayer 1 year, 9 months ago

I Agree with her, “we have plenty of good programs” A 54 % graduation rate just proves with OUT good leadership people will screw up a good thing. Kind of hard to teacher someone to fly a plane when the only knowledge you have was reading the owner’s manual.

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Happy 1 year, 9 months ago

A 54 percent graduation rate is not great, however it is also important to keep in mind how the rate is calculated. There are some problems with how the graduation rate is calculated and is confusing to those who don't know the facts.

For instance, If billy enters the 9th grade this year and drops out of school 10 times, every time Billy drops out of school he counts negatively towards the rate. Billy can drop out as many times as he wants to until the day before his 22nd birthday. When he turns 22 he is no longer able to enroll in public school. This DOES happen!

Also students who are in special education are counted towards this rate, so if you have a student with a low IQ and graduates with a special education diploma, they are considered a drop out.

If a student does not graduate with a regular high school diploma within 4 years after they enter the 9th grade, they are considered for statistic purposes a drop out. So if a child is held back for a year they are considered a drop out.

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Progressive 1 year, 9 months ago

Good to know, but why would this matter? If the same formula is applied to all school districts, it still indicates an abissmal graduation rate!

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FryarTuk 1 year, 9 months ago

You didn't remember much about the Disraeli quote did you, Happy? Why is it that you continue to defend the dysfunctional school system?

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chinaberry25 1 year, 9 months ago

I am not as concerned with the graduation rate as the scores. College grads cannot get jobs, so high school seems kind of moot. Sure they need to graduate, but it will never be100%. ESP children will always bring it down. And there are a lot of those. Lee Co. just barely made the graduation rate low. It is the test scores and how they perform. High school is not as easy as it use to be in the 1960's. What is the answer? Who knows. Private schools do not have these problems because they do not have to accept everyone. They are tested before they enter.

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Duane_Kelley 1 year, 9 months ago

We should be less concerned with test scores and more concerned with differentiating the instruction and the curriculum so that all children can learn

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Happy 1 year, 9 months ago

The legislature took away the vocational diploma. All students are required to follow a college prep track. All students are not college material.

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FlunkyMonkey 1 year, 9 months ago

"Anita Williams-Brown says we have plenty of good programs in place. Then she tells us they don’t work".

The statement in and of itself is indicative of the school board leadership. It doesn't make sense. How can this be? For a program to be good, shouldn't it work? If a program doesn't work, isn't that a bad program?

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Duane_Kelley 1 year, 9 months ago

No....for a program to be good it has to be implemented properly ....

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FryarTuk 1 year, 9 months ago

That's what we've been telling you! So who does Brown-Williams and the nest of incestuous rogues hire to implement the program --- drum roll please --- ta da - the clown with the bow tie, her ole buddy from the bidness, #34. Never been in a secondary education classroom. On a career ladder at ASU leading out the door. Along with the ruling rogues Brwon Williams abort the protocols to get somebody that fill James Bush's directive to take orders. Riggins and Baker get free lunches. Cheers all round, the students and families get thrown under the bus.

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Bubbavet_rureel 1 year, 9 months ago

Leadership is solid and effective. What the system need is more support. Stop talking the talk and start walking the talk. What are you really saying Ru-Reel? I’m saying the system need the following support to succeed: Parents, Children, Teachers, Community support.

  • Parents - making sure homework is done, etc..
  • Children - following intructions, direction and rules etc...
  • Teachers - doing their jobs etc...
  • Community - volunteering, positive talk, encouragement etc...

The children are aware of how people down their system, please offer your community support today.

You may insult me, but remember, we're are in this together. We live, shop and play in this community. We need to find ways to make what we have in place work. Keep the leadership in place and continue to ensure that they do their jobs!

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MRKIA 1 year, 9 months ago

FINALLY YOU MADE A COMMENT THAT I CAN AGREE WITH.

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MRKIA 1 year, 9 months ago

EXCEPT KEEPING THE CURRENT LEADERSHIP IN PLACE.

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Bubbavet_rureel 1 year, 9 months ago

Bashing williams wont work, she will be voted back in for telling the real truth. She is aware that she will be held accountable.

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FryarTuk 1 year, 9 months ago

Anita Williams-Brown is a full fledged card toting member of the incestuous nest of rogues that control and ruin the DCSS. She may well be re-elected but it will be only because the corrupt ministerial cabal have found an effective way of strong arming certain elements of the electorate.

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Bubbavet_rureel 1 year, 9 months ago

She only have one vote, she will work to get your blessings the next four years!

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Duane_Kelley 1 year, 9 months ago

Or perhaps here opponent is not perceived as a better alternative

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Sally_O 1 year, 9 months ago

A grasshopper would be a better alterrnative to Williams.

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PatrickY2K 1 year, 9 months ago

She had the opportunity to start an investigation on the funds Goseer used to bail out an arrested student, and she abstained in the vote. Not holding someone accountable wasn't being responsible, and it definitely wasn't being a leader. She needs to go!

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Bubbavet_rureel 1 year, 9 months ago

The Board is not in place to micro-manage every issue, they are there to bring about short, mid and long term changes.

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Duane_Kelley 1 year, 9 months ago

You had an opportunity to develop your platform and run opposing her...not trying to be disrespectful but everyone but we all talk the talk but when are we going to do something besides find fault criticize and state obvious problems

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PatrickY2K 1 year, 9 months ago

Goseer used funds illegally, but policing that would be micro-managing?!?! With that attidude, no wonder administrators do as they please - they don't answer to anyone.

My job won't allow me to run for the School Board. Dr. Price is plenty qualified.

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Duane_Kelley 1 year, 9 months ago

She has a clue...which is more than I can say for Ms Price, who said the brain is the same when asked if certain children learn differently and she would go to churches fraternities etc., and talk to them...Ha!...the people that need the support the most are not outside the classroom they are inside the classroom

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Bubbavet_rureel 1 year, 9 months ago

You know something, vote Williams!

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MisterEd 1 year, 9 months ago

Actually, you might want to know what you are talking about before you hit that keyboard, DK. What Dr. Price was responding to was the question of whether children in poverty learned differently, and her answer was no. A brain is a brain. The brain doesn't know rich from "poor". The only clue that Anita has is how to keep the system headed to hell in a handbasket.

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Duane_Kelley 1 year, 9 months ago

Now that's funny (hanbasket) there are actually studies that show perhaps children in poverty ACTUALLY DO LEARN DIFFERENTLY.....

http://www.jensenlearning.com/news/why-teach-differently-to-those-from-poverty/teaching-with-poverty-in-mind

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Sally_O 1 year, 9 months ago

DK, I think you don't have a clue.

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Duane_Kelley 1 year, 9 months ago

You are certainly entitled to your opinion....lol perhaps you should check out some of the research on the subject and come to your own conclusion....

http://www.aracy.org.au/cmsdocuments/REP_the_implications_of_poverty_on_childrens_readiness_to_learn_2009.pdf

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FryarTuk 1 year, 9 months ago

Duane_ did you look at this website? It is about a retail instructional concept. To begin with Dr. Price is addressing the biological function of the brain a physical organ. She's a bit technical in that she is a highly trained physician probably just a slip of the tongue on her part though to give a direct answer. That there are approaches to teaching is certainly true. Without going into a great deal about that just suffice it to say that she probably will not be teaching in a class room, but knowing Dr. Price, she would have those kids enthralled if she did. Here's the point - Anita Brown-Williams has the ultimate responsibility of hiring competent professionals who not only know programs but know how to implement them. We do not want B-W, Dr. Price or Rev. Dr. James Bush developing and implementing educational programs. A board hires the best educated, best experienced, best trained, most competent professional to administer the learning services, staff and facilities and then the board provides defined oversight. Anita Brown-Williams joined the ruling rogues in an undisclosed process hiring her associate from her private organization. A grossly incompetent man who was being directly ushered out of ASU because he was useless. The school board and #34 have no regard for the children and families who so desperately need educational services. They are marooned in a ghetto of darkness screaming for guidance and what do they get, a school board and administrator that would risk the funds that provide free/reduced meals, remedial services, at risk services and special needs support funds. If we could get someone of Dr. Price's stature going to the civic groups advocating for public education it would be help beyond your comprehension.

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Duane_Kelley 1 year, 9 months ago

I understand what you are saying and it is clearly within the realm of my comprehension...I have no personal qualm with Dr. Price and I am sure she may have the interests of all our children at heart....however as an educator it is clear to me that children from different cultures socio- economic backgrounds learn differently hence the movement in education toward differentiated instruction...based on my listening to the comments of both Ms Brown Williams gets at least that very important point.....I understand your concerns regarding the issue with our school board and merely wish that educators had a more prominent role in the administration and implementation of the curriculum rather than politicians

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VSU 1 year, 9 months ago

Vote Williams out, time to clean up the garbage.

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Duane_Kelley 1 year, 9 months ago

Her opposition is not a better candidate so i will respectfully disagree

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Progressive 1 year, 9 months ago

Got any FACTS to back this up, or is this just your predjudiced opinion?

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Sally_O 1 year, 9 months ago

Just his predjudiced opinion.

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Duane_Kelley 1 year, 9 months ago

I am not prejudiced nor is my opine based on race.....nor can you Sally speak for me an MY opinions because they are just that....MY opinion.... I base it on listening to the candidates I find that to me she seems to have a more realistic approach to addressing the issues.....Now don't get me wrong 56 percent graduation rate is not good...but if you look inside that this number only reflects who graduates in June....how many of that 44 percent did not graduate because they didn't make a score on the GHSGT? How many came back during the Summer and took a retake and passed it? How many took the required course in summer school or fall semester and finished their diploma requirements if they passed the GHSGT yet failed a course....to me Ms Brown seems to be more cognizant of the issues, but personally I feel that like in Ms Price's profession doctors and nurses govern their own profession perhaps education should take heed and do the same

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VSU 1 year, 9 months ago

Obviously no one agrees with your opinions.

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FryarTuk 1 year, 9 months ago

Duane_ , you stated ". . . I feel that like in Ms Price's profession doctors and nurses govern their own profession perhaps education should take heed and do the same(.)" Why do you suppose the ruling cabal did not follow that guideline when hiring Murfree who has no competence, experience, training nor certification in secondary education? Do you subscribe to James Bush's rule that we need someone who takes orders?

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Duane_Kelley 1 year, 9 months ago

I wish I could answer that...that is indeed a legitimate concern and for that i have no answer....I did not see Mr. Bush's comments if you provide a link with that info then I will respond...I have some concerns about that if it is true...our cabal is made up of politicians moreso than educators for the most part and that in itself concerns me

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FryarTuk 1 year, 9 months ago

As an educator why are you supportive of re-electing someone who has saddled the system with an incompetent, inexperienced administrator? Someone who has subverted disclosure and promoted administrative dysfunction. The teachers, children and families are completely abandoned.

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Duane_Kelley 1 year, 9 months ago

You merely come here to be a smart butt it seems but I never see anything you post regarding solutions other than sling mud and that is not what I am about Fryar Tuck and I at least can have intelligent banter about the issue without dirt being thrown so to you I say good day VSU

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FryarTuk 1 year, 9 months ago

Williams-Brown failed to disclose her relationship with Joshua Murfree before he was selected to be sperintendent. He had been an officer in one of her private groups which she supposedly ran as an outreach service. She and the controlling members of the DCSS met privately and decided that the school board would violate the agreed upon procedure for hiring a new professional among which was to select the best persons for the position determined by through their rating protocols. After arrogantly aborting the selection procedure they selected a person who was rated 34 on the list of qualifications they had determined. The man had never spent a day in administering or teaching in secondary education. In fact, he was programmed on his way out of ASU. What a sorry mess! Williams-Brown should hold her head down in shame. Throw the rascal out.

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Happy 1 year, 9 months ago

How do you know all of this?

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Sister_Ruby 1 year, 9 months ago

Just google the church that Williams-Brown is pastor of and voila you will be educated. Just read through the little powerpoint presentation. All will be revealed. Bedfellows indeed.

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Sally_O 1 year, 9 months ago

It's true...It's da#n true!

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Progressive 1 year, 9 months ago

As someone who tries to see both sides of the issues, I have a hard time understanding why anyone would want to support Anita Brown to continue serving on the DoCo School Board. This School Board has been known to be corrupt for several years now. They have demonstrated they have a hard time with holding people accountable. Plus many other issues that have been described in the above posts. If people really cared about the students, and they really wanted to send a message that it is time to stop the corruption, then it is time to vote her off of this Board. Continuing to support her only sends a clear message that you are turning your back on providing support for the students. Judge someone by their character, or lack of her character, and not the color of her skin.

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Duane_Kelley 1 year, 9 months ago

Not one comment on here said anything about color other than yours...

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43cop 1 year, 9 months ago

Anita Williams-Brown does not even scratch the surface in qualifications to Lane Price. Dr. Price is a wonderful lady that will bring one place on the DCSS that will show dignity and honesty that this system needs so bad.

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Sally_O 1 year, 9 months ago

Williams shouldn't even be allowed to be on the ballot.

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