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You're right, every cloud has a silver lining.
Don't forget them million dollar welcome signs. LOL
I would wager a bet that not one of you posting here has ever been to one of the ones being closed. If they did not have the computers the libraries would have gone by the wayside of the post offices.
Seriously, I know that the city supposedly has different accounts, but from which accounts did those items get paid, the arch, the Ray Charles Plaza and the city signs? What was the total figure of these items? Does anyone know?
The cost for the arches was $660,000.00, I recall, and that was for TWO! The one we have is an eyesore, if you ask me!!
Jglass, Not sure about the Ray Charles Plaza (I think it was an ATI project) but the arch was a SPLOST project on the county's list approved by voters and the signs were funded by a grant from the DOT with a local match that came from the city's general fund.
I guess this confirms that we all should vote against T-SPLOST then... otherwise we, the voters, will approve a whole bunch more wasteful spending.
That's what Democracy is all about; supporting or opposing something based on what you as an American believe is best for a community.
Why can't the civic center (you know, the white elephant that spends the majority of its time not being used) be sold to a private company/manager and that money used to fund the libraries and the RiverQuarium? Seems to me that would be the most logical thing to do. Its a win/win for everyone. Albany gets to keep the white elephant to show off and the rest of us benefit from something that will actually teach us something---
That godawful...er, I mean that "beautiful" arch was a Tommy Chatmon, ATI, project. He is sitting in Florida laughing his A** off because he made his commission off the taxpayers. And if you want to know what $400K looks like, you can go look at one fourth of that on the Lee County side of the bypass. Albany citizens, your commissioners just keep wasting...err, there I go again, spending your money on all kinds of wonderful..I mean wasteful things with the stoke of a pen. Education is in the trash can, so let's just close a couple of Libraries. Roads are horrible and the city's new word, Blighted property everywhere but let's build Welcome to Albany and has anyone else noticed they took away the slogan, The Good Life City, I guess it is hard to sell the slogan, The Thug City.
I have no problem with closing the Southside library. I have stopped in many times and found the personnel to be extremely helpful; however, I was always the only patron, no matter the time of day. Which poses another question? Why was it constructed in the first place? Just like greed - offer a freebie and management will take it whether it is needed or not!
Re: last week's MSNBC article regarding American cities mired in an "unrelenting recession" status (i.e., no short or log term recovery planned or anticipated), Albany was #1 on that listing.
It is in the list but it was only listed first because the list is alphabetical.
It wasn't listed as number 1. They were in alphabetical order... Although Albany was one of several metro areas, including Reno, NV and Spokane, WA., listed as being in an "unrelenting recession."
Here's the link: http://openchannel.msnbc.msn.com/_new...>
Flunky, here's the latest data on the Civic Center usage.
First 5 months of 2012 at Civic Center & Auditorium
Jan-May 2012 - Events at Civic Center (Arena, Meeting Rooms, Parking Lot) = 54
Jan-May 2012 – Events at Municipal Auditorium = 12
Average 10.8 event days per month at CC in first 5 months – estimated year total= 130 increase of 45%
Average 2.4 event days per month at Auditorium in first 5 months
First 5 months of 2012 participation at CC & Aud
Jan-May 2012 – Attendees at Civic Center (Arena, Meeting Rooms, Parking Lot) = 84,274
Jan-May 2012 – Attendees at Municipal Auditorium = 7338
Jan-Dec 2011 - Events at Civic Center (Arena, Meeting Rooms, Parking Lot) = 89
Jan-Dec 2011 – Events at Municipal Auditorium = 37
Average 7.4 event days at CC in 2011
Average 3 event days per month at Auditorium in 2011
Jan-Dec 2011 – Attendees at Civic Center (Arena, Meeting Rooms, Parking Lot) = 135,165
Jan-Dec 2011 – Attendees at Municipal Auditorium = 19,597
****this does not include any set-up or load-in/load-out days
Here are the tentative items for the remainder of the year at the CC (not including the new Tyler Perry play that was booked last week or the Mary Mary concert tentatively set of Nov 3 that was also booked last week)
6/1 - Alb Tech
6/1 - APD concert
6/2 - panthers
6/9 - Mr. Taylor
6/14 - GA UST training
6/15 - Senior Prom
7/21 Summer jam
8/2 - Measure Play
8/4 - WWE
8/7 - CoA comedy
8/11 - Wedding Recp
8/18 - Wedding Recp
9/1 - Watt Reunion
9/19 - HR training
9/22 - Gretchen Wilson
9/22 - Dunnum Bday
9/28 - Women's Conf
9/28 - Symphony
10/13 - CCJW
10/19 - CCJW
10/6 - Chamber theatre
10/25 - Symphony
11/3 - Flood mtg
11/7 - ASU Bynum
11/10 - Faith Concert
11/11 - Sherwood
11/16 - ABA basketball
11/17 - DCSS Bball
11/23 - Sweet 16 pty
11/24 - CCA Concert
11/25 - Ballet South
11/27 - ABA basketball
11/28 - R&S leg
11/30 - Diamond Cheer
12/7 - Deb ball
12/8 - Asu Grad
12/11 - AGAPE
12/12 - Rachel's
12/14 - Alb Tech grad
12/15 - Berachah pty
12/16 - ABA basketball
12/21 - ABA basketball
12/22 - DCSS bball
12/27 - ABA basketball
12/28 - Alb Tech bball
12/30 - ABA basketball
Can you determine (from the numbers you cite) how many attendees at the Civic Center were there for graduation ceremonies (in May) of the local high schools?
Does anyone really think those particular libraries were being overrun with patrons? If certain people in this town will not take advantage of the free education they are offered, I don't think they will be knocking down the doors of the libraries.
J.D., I appreciate your input into this article. You have been very helpful answering questions and giving statistics. THANKS!!!
No need to worry about those two libraries. Only 6 jobs were lost, and like the other squawkers said. We got that Arch, Ray Charles plaza and those welcome signs. Why sweat the small stuff. We should feel proud!
Thanks for the link to the MSNBC article JD. I had not seen that. Unfortunately, it is unsurprising. But what about the second arch? I do recall that we bought both arches simultaneously with plans to install the second on the Broad Street bridge. After the public backlash on the first arch's asthetics, or lack thereof; and the intrusion on the state right-of-way issue - we just never heard what happened to the second arch. I have heard rumors that it is still in storage somewhere. Has it been sold for scrap metal? Was it never delivered in the first place? This is the stuff from which urban legends are born. The Missing Archway of Albany.
I love Albany, we need this spirit, If you hate Albany, please pray for a renewed heart and spirit.
Riggins and Obama, four more great years!!
4 more crooked years!
WhoDat: from City of Albany
ASU – 5/5 – 5000 (CC)
Ga Regional Academy Graduation – 5/14 – 500 (Meeting Room event)
DCSS Graduation 5/18-5/19 – 15,000 (CC)
Andersonville Seminary – 5/25 – 435 (Auditorium)
Albany Tech – 6/1 – 2500 (CC)
I agree with AnotherMom regarding the libraries which are gems for all ages. We should all take advantage of the many things they have to offer.
As far as the blue arches. They are a joke. We couldn't have a landmark that was classic or historical in nature, but we had to have a lighted blue arch. LOL. How funny can that be!
J.D., just one question. How many of the ones you have shown are paying groups?