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Squawk of the day - June 18, 2012

"Don’t be upset about the closing of our libraries. After all, we have the arch over the bridge and the Ray Charles Plaza. That is more important than keeping our libraries open."

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VSU 2 years, 4 months ago

You're right, every cloud has a silver lining.

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bigbob 2 years, 4 months ago

Don't forget them million dollar welcome signs. LOL

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chinaberry25 2 years, 4 months ago

I would wager a bet that not one of you posting here has ever been to one of the ones being closed. If they did not have the computers the libraries would have gone by the wayside of the post offices.

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jglass 2 years, 4 months ago

Seriously, I know that the city supposedly has different accounts, but from which accounts did those items get paid, the arch, the Ray Charles Plaza and the city signs? What was the total figure of these items? Does anyone know?

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alleebrin 2 years, 4 months ago

The cost for the arches was $660,000.00, I recall, and that was for TWO! The one we have is an eyesore, if you ask me!!

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J.D._Sumner 2 years, 4 months ago

Jglass, Not sure about the Ray Charles Plaza (I think it was an ATI project) but the arch was a SPLOST project on the county's list approved by voters and the signs were funded by a grant from the DOT with a local match that came from the city's general fund.

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Shinedownfan 2 years, 4 months ago

I guess this confirms that we all should vote against T-SPLOST then... otherwise we, the voters, will approve a whole bunch more wasteful spending.

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J.D._Sumner 2 years, 4 months ago

That's what Democracy is all about; supporting or opposing something based on what you as an American believe is best for a community.

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FlunkyMonkey 2 years, 4 months ago

Why can't the civic center (you know, the white elephant that spends the majority of its time not being used) be sold to a private company/manager and that money used to fund the libraries and the RiverQuarium? Seems to me that would be the most logical thing to do. Its a win/win for everyone. Albany gets to keep the white elephant to show off and the rest of us benefit from something that will actually teach us something---

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daisymae 2 years, 4 months ago

That godawful...er, I mean that "beautiful" arch was a Tommy Chatmon, ATI, project. He is sitting in Florida laughing his A** off because he made his commission off the taxpayers. And if you want to know what $400K looks like, you can go look at one fourth of that on the Lee County side of the bypass. Albany citizens, your commissioners just keep wasting...err, there I go again, spending your money on all kinds of wonderful..I mean wasteful things with the stoke of a pen. Education is in the trash can, so let's just close a couple of Libraries. Roads are horrible and the city's new word, Blighted property everywhere but let's build Welcome to Albany and has anyone else noticed they took away the slogan, The Good Life City, I guess it is hard to sell the slogan, The Thug City.

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alleebrin 2 years, 4 months ago

I have no problem with closing the Southside library. I have stopped in many times and found the personnel to be extremely helpful; however, I was always the only patron, no matter the time of day. Which poses another question? Why was it constructed in the first place? Just like greed - offer a freebie and management will take it whether it is needed or not!

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Yowsa51 2 years, 4 months ago

Re: last week's MSNBC article regarding American cities mired in an "unrelenting recession" status (i.e., no short or log term recovery planned or anticipated), Albany was #1 on that listing.

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GoodyGoodie 2 years, 4 months ago

It is in the list but it was only listed first because the list is alphabetical.

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J.D._Sumner 2 years, 4 months ago

It wasn't listed as number 1. They were in alphabetical order... Although Albany was one of several metro areas, including Reno, NV and Spokane, WA., listed as being in an "unrelenting recession."

Here's the link: http://openchannel.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/06/15/12226933-city-by-city-heres-your-guide-to-the-painfully-slow-economic-recovery?lite

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J.D._Sumner 2 years, 4 months ago

Flunky, here's the latest data on the Civic Center usage.

2012 First 5 months of 2012 at Civic Center & Auditorium Jan-May 2012 - Events at Civic Center (Arena, Meeting Rooms, Parking Lot) = 54 Jan-May 2012 – Events at Municipal Auditorium = 12 Average 10.8 event days per month at CC in first 5 months – estimated year total= 130 increase of 45% Average 2.4 event days per month at Auditorium in first 5 months

First 5 months of 2012 participation at CC & Aud Jan-May 2012 – Attendees at Civic Center (Arena, Meeting Rooms, Parking Lot) = 84,274 Jan-May 2012 – Attendees at Municipal Auditorium = 7338

2011 Jan-Dec 2011 - Events at Civic Center (Arena, Meeting Rooms, Parking Lot) = 89 Jan-Dec 2011 – Events at Municipal Auditorium = 37 Average 7.4 event days at CC in 2011 Average 3 event days per month at Auditorium in 2011

Jan-Dec 2011 – Attendees at Civic Center (Arena, Meeting Rooms, Parking Lot) = 135,165 Jan-Dec 2011 – Attendees at Municipal Auditorium = 19,597

****this does not include any set-up or load-in/load-out days

Here are the tentative items for the remainder of the year at the CC (not including the new Tyler Perry play that was booked last week or the Mary Mary concert tentatively set of Nov 3 that was also booked last week) June 6/1 - Alb Tech 6/1 - APD concert 6/2 - panthers 6/9 - Mr. Taylor 6/14 - GA UST training 6/15 - Senior Prom 6/22 YIFL 6/23 Panthers 6/30 Panthers

July 7/21 Summer jam 7/1-28 misc

August 8/2 - Measure Play 8/4 - WWE 8/7 - CoA comedy 8/11 - Wedding Recp 8/18 - Wedding Recp

Sep 9/1 - Watt Reunion 9/19 - HR training 9/22 - Gretchen Wilson 9/22 - Dunnum Bday 9/28 - Women's Conf 9/28 - Symphony

Oct 10/13 - CCJW 10/19 - CCJW 10/6 - Chamber theatre 10/25 - Symphony

Nov 11/3 - Flood mtg 11/7 - ASU Bynum 11/10 - Faith Concert 11/11 - Sherwood 11/16 - ABA basketball 11/17 - DCSS Bball 11/23 - Sweet 16 pty 11/24 - CCA Concert 11/25 - Ballet South 11/27 - ABA basketball 11/28 - R&S leg 11/30 - Diamond Cheer

Dec 12/7 - Deb ball 12/8 - Asu Grad 12/11 - AGAPE 12/12 - Rachel's 12/14 - Alb Tech grad 12/15 - Berachah pty 12/16 - ABA basketball 12/21 - ABA basketball 12/22 - DCSS bball 12/27 - ABA basketball 12/28 - Alb Tech bball 12/30 - ABA basketball

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whodat 2 years, 4 months ago

Can you determine (from the numbers you cite) how many attendees at the Civic Center were there for graduation ceremonies (in May) of the local high schools?

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AnotherMom 2 years, 4 months ago

Does anyone really think those particular libraries were being overrun with patrons? If certain people in this town will not take advantage of the free education they are offered, I don't think they will be knocking down the doors of the libraries.

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jglass 2 years, 4 months ago

J.D., I appreciate your input into this article. You have been very helpful answering questions and giving statistics. THANKS!!!

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VSU 2 years, 4 months ago

No need to worry about those two libraries. Only 6 jobs were lost, and like the other squawkers said. We got that Arch, Ray Charles plaza and those welcome signs. Why sweat the small stuff. We should feel proud!

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Cartman 2 years, 4 months ago

Thanks for the link to the MSNBC article JD. I had not seen that. Unfortunately, it is unsurprising. But what about the second arch? I do recall that we bought both arches simultaneously with plans to install the second on the Broad Street bridge. After the public backlash on the first arch's asthetics, or lack thereof; and the intrusion on the state right-of-way issue - we just never heard what happened to the second arch. I have heard rumors that it is still in storage somewhere. Has it been sold for scrap metal? Was it never delivered in the first place? This is the stuff from which urban legends are born. The Missing Archway of Albany.

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Bubbavet_rureel 2 years, 4 months ago

I love Albany, we need this spirit, If you hate Albany, please pray for a renewed heart and spirit.

Riggins and Obama, four more great years!!

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J.D._Sumner 2 years, 4 months ago

WhoDat: from City of Albany

ASU – 5/5 – 5000 (CC) Ga Regional Academy Graduation – 5/14 – 500 (Meeting Room event) DCSS Graduation 5/18-5/19 – 15,000 (CC) Andersonville Seminary – 5/25 – 435 (Auditorium) Albany Tech – 6/1 – 2500 (CC)

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tocar 2 years, 4 months ago

I agree with AnotherMom regarding the libraries which are gems for all ages. We should all take advantage of the many things they have to offer.
As far as the blue arches. They are a joke. We couldn't have a landmark that was classic or historical in nature, but we had to have a lighted blue arch. LOL. How funny can that be!

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43cop 2 years, 4 months ago

J.D., just one question. How many of the ones you have shown are paying groups?

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