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Squawk of the Day - June, 22, 2012

The reason that people on the northwest side of town have a home or things is because they work to provide these things for themselves.

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Clif 1 year, 10 months ago

And these same Northwest people also work every day & pay taxes which provides homes & things for the sorry Bishop/Obama voters who only work (vote) on election day. And then, back to the couch, tv, potato chips & soda, & complain.

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VSU 1 year, 10 months ago

Maybe he's tired of paying taxes for the sorry Bishop/Obama voters who only work (vote) on election day. And then, back to the couch, tv, potato chips & soda, & complain.

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JustAnotherVoice 1 year, 10 months ago

What an arrogant, condescending remark. I voted for Obama as did the majority of Americans. That is why he IS the President. I work a full-time job, attend church regularly, and am working on my MBA. I am also educated on the issues and vote each and every election. Oh, and I am WHITE.

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Clif 1 year, 10 months ago

Stupid is as stupid does.......

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bubbavet 1 year, 10 months ago

You are a fool if you vote for him again.

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bubbavet 1 year, 10 months ago

I forgot. What church do you go to? Bet you won't tell.

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FlunkyMonkey 1 year, 10 months ago

i live on the east side of the river. I get up every morning at 5:00 a.m. and (gasp) GO TO WORK. People on the nw side of town are not the only ones in this city that work and pay taxes. But, they have cornered the market in arrogance and egos. The majority of us river rats work, pay taxes, take no government handouts, but we are judged by the holier than thou, better than you are northwesters simply because we live on the east side of the river. What a bunch of hypocrites.

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erudite 1 year, 10 months ago

Not all of us in NWA think we are better than anyone else; we are too busy working or going to school.

We are the same as you just on the west side of the river. Same S, different neighborhood!!

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VSU 1 year, 10 months ago

Hey, a dollar bill is worth a dollar regardless whether you live North, South, East or West, right Flunky? It's not where you live, it's who you are that counts. If you work, pay taxes, earn your own keep, it doesn't matter which side of the river you are on or from.

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stc1993 1 year, 10 months ago

"The majority of us river rats work, pay taxes, take no government handouts" you need to think again & say some of us. It might of been true back in the early 70's but not now. I was a river rat for around 15 yrs. I can remember when DoCo police chief Leroy Howell was a river rat & sheriff Saba was a river rat, he lived over on Cherokee Dr. he was a detective back then. Those days have been long gone.

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kurtgeorgia 1 year, 10 months ago

I live on the northwest side of town, have a six figure salary, am a supporter of Bishop and Obama, and I'm white. When I cast my vote, I do so based on what is best for all. It's easy for some of you to sit in your castles on my side of town and criticize everyone who is less fortunate that you by lumping them into the same "sorry" category. Many of these people work harder than most of you but have not been able to catch a lucky break, fall back on an inheritance, or benefit from rules and laws that were made solely for those of us who have been blessed financially. So...the next time you are tempted to condemn the less fortunate, why not act like the true Christian you claim to be and extend a caring, compassionate hand. You might be surprised at how much progress can be made by helping people get out of a pit of dispair instead of stepping on their fingers each time they try to climb out on their own.

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MRKIA 1 year, 10 months ago

A WELL WRITTEN AND THOUGNT PROVOKING POST.

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Sister_Ruby 1 year, 10 months ago

You must be a gentleman farmer or a government worker.

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MRKIA 1 year, 10 months ago

A GOOD POINT OF VIEW JUST THE SAME

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willie 1 year, 10 months ago

I was wondering if the regulars who comment here are a true reflection of the townsfolk, apparently not. Makes no difference the complexion of the person, the real difference is what that person reflects. Amongst the races there are good and evil and unfortunately not a common ground to walk and meet each other..................

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tocar 1 year, 10 months ago

I live on the NW side and my neighborhood is a normal average working class of people of all colors. We are not a wealthy, arrogant subdivision consisting of big expensive homes. We do work and do not receive government handouts. There are thugs from all over who have made neighborhoods ugly, trashy and dangerous. Some of the sweetest and hardest working people I know are from different sections of the county who do pay taxes and does not support Obama.

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willie 1 year, 10 months ago

One can only make the assumption that the majority of you folks have been here longer than Mr. Bishop and The President have been in office, so why blame them for your shortcomings......................

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alleebrin 1 year, 10 months ago

It's not a matter of who and when the problems began, it's what has been done about them since Bishop and Obummer have been in office! Absolutely nothing but spend, spend, spend. And the taxpayers are surely fed up!

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whodat 1 year, 10 months ago

"Of all the falsehoods told about President Barack Obama, the biggest whopper is the one about his reckless spending spree."

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/obama-spending-binge-never-happened-2012-05-22?pagenumber=1

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Sister_Ruby 1 year, 10 months ago

Figures don't lie but liars figure. You can do anything with percents. But going from $9 Trillion (a travesty) to $16 Trillion (a monumental travesty) in under four years in the National Debt? That tells the true Obama story. (And He would spend a few more Trillion if He could but enough Democrats would not even vote for THAT in an election year.

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whodat 1 year, 10 months ago

The figures tell me that the national debt under Bush increased roughly 5 trillion. That's what he left for Obama to work with. Under Bush, the debt increased by 89%. Under Obama, it's only been 41%.

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coachjohnson42 1 year, 10 months ago

Obama can use my tax dollars however he pleases. Bush did.....

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Progressive 1 year, 10 months ago

You know what they say.... a FOOL and his money are soon parted. You just proved it to be true!

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Clif 1 year, 10 months ago

But Bush used much less of your tax dollars & in a more responsible way. Compare spending then & now....

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whodat 1 year, 10 months ago

Well, since you asked.....here are a few articles that compare Bush v. Obama with regard to spending and national debt. There are also links to other articles. The upshot is that (surprise!) the national debt began to really surge under Reagan and has grown substantially since then, with a short-lived balanced-budget and surplus under Clinton. The biggest increase was under Bush who financed two wars and a tax cut for the wealthy that sucked about $680 billion in revenues out of the Treasury (which could have been used to pay down the national debt).

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/post/column-doing-the-math-on-obamas-deficits/2011/08/25/gIQALDBchQ_blog.html http://www.factcheck.org/2012/02/dueling-debt-deceptions/ http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2012/jun/01/scorecard-economy-obama/ http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2012/may/25/lots-heat-and-some-light-obamas-spending/

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ghostofkarelia 1 year, 10 months ago

Dumbest thing I've ever read on this site. Just speechless. Revisionist history.

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VSU 1 year, 10 months ago

Why not have obama take our share of tax dollars from you coach since you seem so generous of him taking your money.

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stc1993 1 year, 10 months ago

What I read is Obama has spent more money than all the previous presidents combined all the way back to George Washington.

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waltspecht 1 year, 10 months ago

I can remember Company people being told they couldn't join Doublegate because of it's policies in the early eighties. I remember when those houses along Old Dawson weren't for sale to then minorities. I have a long memory. I also remember the house of ill reput along Old Dawson and the client list that disappeared. I also see folks on a daily basis that make the NW area home that don't ever seem to go to work anywhere. People are what they are, the neighborhood they live in doesn't make them good or bad. I can even remember some grow houses, and drug dealers renting in semi exclusive Lee County neighborhoods, just in case some folks want to get a swelled head about living in Lee County.

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Spike 1 year, 10 months ago

I live on the NW side of town and am appalled by the squawk BUT very disappointed that the Herald continues to pull these inflammatory squawks and give a voice to ignorant idiots who sling mud all over.

Come on Herald.......

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willie 1 year, 10 months ago

Inflammatory squawks. Near fifty years ago after a transfer the new boss stated to me, get to know the people of the city by reading the local newspaper and talk to a complete stranger about what you read regarding local news...............

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gotanyfacts 1 year, 10 months ago

One has to wonder what event led the Squawker to make the statement he did. Is it a response to another person's blanket negative reference to all who live in the northwest section of Albany? I guess it's in our DNA to seek commonality which helps us form working social groups. We need to balance that instinct with intellect. If we do that, maybe we will quit jumping on a bandwagon, defending or attacking people, or taking sides based on the groups to which the antagonists belong even though we know nothing about the individuals. One of the reasons I am so opposed to the Obama administration, and liberals in general, is that they actively seek to break America down into opposing groups for political gain.

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jglass 1 year, 10 months ago

I don't like the squawk, but something did trigger that one. I was raised on the eastside, have lived in the country on the southside for 30+ years. I have always held a job and have made a pretty good living. It doesn't matter which part of town you live in. It is up to you individually to decide what you are going to do with your life. Techinically, Obama didn't win by the majority of the votes in America. I think it is the electorial votes (electorial college).........which I do not agree with. So, no the majority of the citizens did not put Obama in office.

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waltspecht 1 year, 10 months ago

The electorial vote is in place so the population centers can't overwhelmingly control the outcome of an election. I believe you will find Obama had the majority vote on individually cast ballot numbers due to these population centers.

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JustAnotherVoice 1 year, 10 months ago

Obama: Popular vote: 69,499,428 52.87% Electoral votes: 365; 67.8%

McCain: Popular vote: 59,950,323 45.6% Electoral votes: 173; 32.2%

Anyway you look at it, Obama won the election.

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VSU 1 year, 10 months ago

But take away those illegal votes, and the votes from dead people, and see what it would be.

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FlunkyMonkey 1 year, 10 months ago

I can remember when Albany was just Albany. Not East Albany, Central Albany, South Albany and northwest Albany was nothing but pine trees and scrub oaks. The only time a part of town came into question was when Dougherty High played Albany High and Dougherty students proudly wore the moniker "River Rat". Thanks to some jerks in the Albany Herald and on WALB, it all of a sudden became Albany and EAST Albany. Now, instead of just Albany, we are scattered parts with some residents thinking they are better because of the area of town they live in. What happened to Albany?

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LuLu 1 year, 10 months ago

And once upon a time we were all just Americans, too. Then the liberals had to start hyphenating and dividing us and now look where we're at.

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LuLu 1 year, 10 months ago

I have no intention of wasting my time and energy arguing with you, but the hyphenated term "African-American" was started by Jesse Jackson, a liberal.

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VSU 1 year, 10 months ago

You can add Al sharpton to that as well.

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erudite 1 year, 10 months ago

I'd like to tie this squawk to that of a few days ago about housing assistance. I live in NW Albany in a neighborhood where 95% work. 95% of us rent, maybe have a basketball hoop or bikes for the kids, some have crap cars, some have nice cars, we wave and say hello, regardless of color or sex.

Several of the homes in the area are being sold-and stand vacant- because they are close to foreclosure; the loss of such big employers made people who had been self sufficient for years suddenly broke. These folks did not live 'beyond their means'; they lived in a financial world which had savings interest over 5% and retirement funds or pension plans were safe. Then somebody flipped the switch.

If people had a mortgage when working at Cooper or Merck or Bob's or Mars, chances are people refinanced or tried to sell. In some instances, people ended up on assistance. Not because they are lazy, or dumb, or feel entitled, or are having babies or fit any of the stereotypes present in the Housing squawks.

So let's revisit that line of folks looking for help; I'll guess that the majority are folks whose job has left the area and incomes have gone to nil.

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VSU 1 year, 10 months ago

Inspirational post erudite! Puts a smile on my face! Helped me look at things from a different view, or should I say view things differently. Sometimes things are not as they seem.

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agirl_25 1 year, 10 months ago

I can remember how devastating it was for so many back in the 80's when Firestone packed up and left the area. I was working at Palmyra at the time and it was shocking to see how many of the Firestone workers suddenly had work related accidents, that is how desperate they had become. I cannot imagine how it must have been for them losing those high paying jobs all of a sudden, knowing that in the area the chances of them finding another job with such high pay and such good benefits were nil. I wonder if any of you remember Firestone's closing and the ramifications? Remember it hit all of Albany...north, east, south and west.....

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chinaberry25 1 year, 10 months ago

Albany has always been an arrogant town and my family has been here for 8 generations. I graduated from Albany High. Went with Paula Deen. If you did not buy your clothes and shoes from Blanches or the Moses place you were nobody. They stared right through you. You have to have the right address, no wonder there are so many Doublegates in one area. I live on DG Drive was what you wanted to say. Of course it may be the poor DG Drive. Image is all it has ever meant here. Then the flood came and things changed. Had to. I do not live in Albany any longer, but I can see the same on ways. Blacks as well as whites. Both have their high opinions of themselves. Others like me, don't care.

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Cartman 1 year, 10 months ago

At least I'm working for a living and not wasting my time playing on the computer, reading the internet, and complaining on a squawk forum, and...

Oh, wait.

Nevermind.

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jglass 1 year, 10 months ago

Well, Cartman, I see comments from you regularly!!! My prayer is that those who did vote for Obama see how he is ruining our country and will NOT give him 4 more years to put us under!!!!! I still say vote for vote it might have been different!!

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VSU 1 year, 10 months ago

This squawk is no worse than people in Lee County that think people that live in Albany are beneath them.

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Clyde 1 year, 10 months ago

They are beneath them, geographically. I was born and raised here. There are good and bad folks in every part of this town. That has never changed in the 50+ years I've been here. The squawker just ran out of good stuff to post. How about abortion or the news talking about legalizing pot? Let's change it up some. How bout you Coach, throw something new out there we can squawk on.

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jglass 1 year, 10 months ago

erudite, you are so right. When those companies left the area it really hit hard. And, people who have never had to ask for assistance are now getting assistance. People just assume and/or lump those who need help all into one category. Their day will come when they will need assistance.

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Bubbavet_rureel 1 year, 10 months ago

That's right, rob from the poor to have a better life.

Think hard before you respond.

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Sister_Ruby 1 year, 10 months ago

Maybe those evil people in the Northwest part of town should secede from Albany and quit paying taxes for all the freeloading and freespending? Most of you would be singing a different tune if that were possible. Albany would become a riot zone.

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FlunkyMonkey 1 year, 10 months ago

In regard to the comments about, Firestone, Bobs, Merck, etc....closing their doors and leaving. If Albany does not WAKE UP AND PULL TOGETHER AS A COMMUNITY, we can wave bye to the Marine Base, Millers, and Proctor & Gamble. Then ALL the citizens of Albany and Lee County and Mitchell County and Worth County and Terrell County will all be in the same boat. The only difference will be some folks will be more snotty and hoity toity when they use their food stamps.

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alleebrin 1 year, 10 months ago

And where will the food stamps come from when all the working folks lose their jobs?!!!

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agirl_25 1 year, 10 months ago

I do wonder, FlunkyMonkey, what is left.....I know Procter & Gamble is left and wonder about Miller? I was once going to work at Miller many many years ago but decided I didn't want to drive across to that part of town from where I lived in the country then fate stepped in and I had to stop working anyway because of the spinal injury....ain't life funny. Like you said tho, they are going to feel pretty bad when they are in line using their food stamps. One very good friend's husband worked at Firestone, as a matter of fact he was pretty high up in management there, and she said he was so upset by losing his job that she was concerned about his mental state. The had moved back to Ohio to try to reorganize their lives but things just never were the same.

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