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Supreme Court upholds health care reform act (Added: What it means; poll)

Demonstrators for and against the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act march and chant outside the U.S. Supreme Court Building on in Washington, D.C. Oral arguments ended Wednesday.

Demonstrators for and against the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act march and chant outside the U.S. Supreme Court Building on in Washington, D.C. Oral arguments ended Wednesday.

— The Supreme Court on Thursday upheld virtually all of President Barack Obama's historic health care overhaul, including the hotly debated core requirement that nearly every American have health insurance.

The 5-4 decision meant the huge overhaul, still taking effect, could proceed and pick up momentum over the next several years, affecting the way that countless Americans receive and pay for their personal medical care.

Click here to read reactions to the ruling, including those of U.S. Sen. Saxby Chambliss and U.S. Rep. Sanford Bishop.

The ruling hands Obama a campaign-season victory in rejecting arguments that Congress went too far in approving the plan. However, Republicans quickly indicated they will try to use the decision to rally their supporters against what they call "Obamacare," arguing that the ruling characterized the penalty against people who refuse to get insurance as a tax.

Reader poll

What is your reaction to the Supreme Court's health care reform decision?

  • The justices made the right call. 10%
  • The justices made the wrong call. 89%
  • I'm not sure. 2%

958 total votes.

Obama declared, "Whatever the politics, today's decision was a victory for people all over this country." GOP presidential candidate Mitt Romney renewed his criticism of the overhaul, calling it "bad law" and promising to work to repeal it if elected in November.

What does the law mean for Americans?

WHAT DOES THE RULING MEAN TO ME?

The Supreme Court decision upholding President Barack Obama's health care law affects nearly every American. The law tells almost everyone they must have health coverage and guarantees it will be available to them even if they are already ill or need hugely expensive care. It helps the poor and many middle-class people afford coverage.

WHAT THE JUSTICES SAID

The high court upheld almost all of the law, including the most disputed part: the mandate that virtually all Americans have health insurance or pay a fine. The court said that fine is essentially a tax, and that's why the government has the power to impose it.

The ruling limited the law's plan to expand the Medicaid insurance program for the poor, a joint effort of the federal government and states. It says the U.S. government cannot withhold a state's entire Medicaid allotment if it doesn't participate in the expansion.

Chief Justice John Roberts sided with the court's four liberal justices — Stephen Breyer, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Elena Kagan and Sonia Sotomayor — to form the 5-4 majority.

HUGE POLITICAL IMPACT

The court upheld Obama's signature legislative achievement. Final word from the court amplifies the most polarizing issue of his re-election campaign against Republican Mitt Romney.

GOP lawmakers and Romney have promised to repeal the law if they are in power after the November election.

WHAT NOW?

The 2010 health care law will keep taking effect. It's expected to bring coverage to about 30 million uninsured people. Overall, more than 9 in 10 eligible Americans will be covered.

Some parts are already in effect: Young adults can stay on their parents' insurance up to age 26. Insurers can't deny coverage to children with health problems. Limits on how much policies will pay out to each person over a lifetime are eliminated. Hundreds of older people already are saving money through improved Medicare prescription benefits. And co-payments for preventive care for all ages have been eliminated.

WHAT'S NEXT?

Starting in 2014, almost everyone will be required to be insured or pay a fine. There are subsidies to help people who can't afford coverage. Most employers will face fines if they don't offer coverage for their workers. Newly created insurance markets will make it easier for individuals and small businesses to buy affordable coverage. And Medicaid will be expanded to cover more low-income people.

Insurers will be prohibited from denying coverage to people with medical problems or charging those people more. They won't be able to charge women more, either. During the transition to 2014, a special program for people with pre-existing health problems helps these people get coverage.

An assortment of tax increases, health industry fees and Medicare cuts will help pay for the changes.

STILL, NOT EVERYONE WILL BE COVERED

An estimated 26 million people will remain without coverage once the law is fully implemented, including illegal immigrants, people who don't sign up and choose to face the fines instead, and those who can't afford it even with the subsidies. That number could be higher, depending on whether any states refuse the Medicaid expansion.

THE TAXING TRUTH

When the law was before Congress, Obama and Democrats avoided calling its penalty for going uninsured a "tax." But the administration argued before the Supreme Court that the law was constitutional as a federal tax. The court rejected two other Obama administration arguments for the law but accepted the tax one.

In 2016, after the law is fully in place, about 4 million people will pay the penalty to the Internal Revenue Service for being uninsured, the Congressional Budget Office has estimated. They would pay $695 per uninsured adult or 2.5 percent of family income, up to $12,500 per year.

The IRS can't prosecute violators or place liens against them, however. Its only enforcement option may be withholding money from refunds.

WHAT ARE REPUBLICANS SAYING?

"Obamacare was bad law yesterday. It's bad law today," Romney said after the ruling.

The Republican-led House already has voted for repeal but can't push it forward so long as Obama's in the White House and Democrats lead the Senate — making the November elections crucial.

Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell called the court decision "a fresh start on the road to repeal."

OBAMA'S REACTION

Obama says the decision upholds the fundamental principle that in the wealthiest nation on earth, no one should be ruined financially by an illness or accident.

He called it "a victory for people all over this country whose lives will be more secure because of this law."

ABOUT THAT MANDATE

Many parts of the law have proven popular. But the insurance mandate is widely disliked.

Each time AP has asked in polls, more than 8 in 10 Americans have said the government should not have the right to require everyone to buy health insurance.

The public also has tilted against the law as a whole over the two years since it was passed. About half opposed it and a third were in favor in an AP-GfK poll shortly before the Supreme Court ruled.

Breaking with the court's other conservative justices, Chief Justice John Roberts announced the judgment that allows the law to go forward with its aim of covering more than 30 million uninsured Americans. Roberts explained at length the court's view of the mandate as a valid exercise of Congress' authority to "lay and collect taxes." The administration estimates that roughly 4 million people will pay the penalty rather than buy insurance.

Even though Congress called it a penalty, not a tax, Roberts said, "The payment is collected solely by the IRS through the normal means of taxation."

Roberts also made plain the court's rejection of the administration's claim that Congress had the power under the Constitution's commerce clause to put the mandate in place. The power to regulate interstate commerce power, he said, "does not authorize the mandate. "

Stocks of hospital companies rose after the decision was announced, while shares of insurers fell sharply. Shares of drugmakers and device makers fell slightly.

The justices rejected two of the administration's three arguments in support of the insurance requirement. But the court said the mandate can be construed as a tax. "Because the Constitution permits such a tax, it is not our role to forbid it, or to pass upon its wisdom or fairness," Roberts said.

The court found problems with the law's expansion of Medicaid, but even there said the expansion could proceed as long as the federal government does not threaten to withhold states' entire Medicaid allotment if they don't take part in the law's extension.

The court's four liberal justices, Stephen Breyer, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Elena Kagan and Sonia Sotomayor, joined Roberts in the outcome.

Justices Samuel Alito, Anthony Kennedy, Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas dissented.

Kennedy summarized the dissent in court. "In our view, the act before us is invalid in its entirety," he said.

The dissenters said in a joint statement that the law "exceeds federal power both in mandating the purchase of health insurance and in denying non-consenting states all Medicaid funding."

In all, the justices spelled out their views in six opinions totaling 187 pages. Roberts, Kennedy and Ginsburg spent 51 minutes summarizing their views in the packed courtroom.

The legislation passed Congress in early 2010 after a monumental struggle in which all Republicans voted against it. House Majority Leader Eric Cantor, R-Va., said Thursday the House will vote the week of July 9 on whether to repeal the law, though such efforts have virtually no chance in the Democratic-controlled Senate.

After the ruling, Republican campaign strategists said Romney will use it to continue campaigning against "Obamacare" and attacking the president's signature health care program as a tax increase.

"Obama might have his law, but the GOP has a cause," said veteran campaign adviser Terry Holt. "This promises to galvanize Republican support around a repeal of what could well be called the largest tax increase in American history."

Democrats said Romney, who backed an individual health insurance mandate when he was Massachusetts governor, will have a hard time exploiting the ruling.

"Mitt Romney is the intellectual godfather of Obamacare," said Democratic consultant Jim Manley. "The bigger issue is the rising cost of health care, and this bill is designed to deal with it."

More than eight in 10 Americans already have health insurance. But for most of the 50 million who are uninsured, the ruling offers the promise of guaranteed coverage at affordable prices. Lower-income and many middle-class families will be eligible for subsidies to help pay premiums starting in 2014.

There's also an added safety net for all Americans, insured and uninsured. Starting in 2014, insurance companies will not be able to deny coverage for medical treatment, nor can they charge more to people with health problems. Those protections, now standard in most big employer plans, will be available to all, including people who get laid off, or leave a corporate job to launch their own small business.

Seniors also benefit from the law through better Medicare coverage for those with high prescription costs, and no copayments for preventive care. But hospitals, nursing homes, and many other service providers may struggle once the Medicare cuts used to finance the law really start to bite.

Illegal immigrants are not entitled to the new insurance coverage under the law, and will remain one of the biggest groups uninsured.

Obama's law is by no means the last word on health care. Experts expect costs to keep rising, meaning that lawmakers will have to revisit the issue perhaps as early as next year, when federal budget woes will force them to confront painful options for Medicare and Medicaid, the giant federal programs that cover seniors, the disabled, and low-income people.

The health care overhaul focus will now quickly shift from Washington to state capitals. Only 14 states, plus Washington, D.C., have adopted plans to set up the new health insurance markets called for under the law. Called exchanges, the new markets are supposed to be up and running on Jan. 1, 2014. People buying coverage individually, as well as small businesses, will be able to shop for private coverage from a range of competing insurers.

Most Republican-led states, including large ones such as Texas and Florida, have been counting on the law to be overturned and have failed to do the considerable spade work needed to set up exchanges. There's a real question about whether they can meet the deadline, and if they don't, Washington will step in and run their exchanges for them.

In contrast to the states, health insurance companies, major employers, and big hospital systems are among the best prepared. Many of the changes called for in the law were already being demanded by employers trying to get better value for their private health insurance dollars.

"The main driver here is financial," said Dr. Toby Cosgrove, CEO of the Cleveland Clinic, which has pioneered some of the changes. "The factors driving health care reform are not new, and they are not going to go away."

The Medicaid expansion would cover an estimated 17 million people who earn too much to qualify for assistance but not enough to afford insurance. The federal and state governments share the cost, and Washington regularly imposes conditions on the states in exchange for money.

Roberts said Congress' ability to impose those conditions has its limits. "In this case, the financial 'inducement' Congress has chosen is much more than 'relatively mild encouragement' — it is a gun to the head," he said.

The law says the Health and Human Services Department can withhold a state's entire Medicaid allotment if the state doesn't comply with the health care law's Medicaid provisions.

Even while ruling out that level of coercion, however, Roberts said nothing prevents the federal government from offering money to accomplish the expansion and withholding that money from states that don't meet certain conditions.

"What Congress is not free to do is to penalize states that choose not to participate in that new program by taking away their existing Medicaid funding," he said.

Ginsburg said the court should have upheld the entire law as written without forcing any changes in the Medicaid provision. She said Congress' constitutional authority to regulate interstate commerce supports the individual mandate. She warned that the legal reasoning, even though the law was upheld, could cause trouble in future cases.

"So in the end, the Affordable Health Care Act survives largely unscathed. But the court's commerce clause and spending clause jurisprudence has been set awry. My expectation is that the setbacks will be temporary blips, not permanent obstructions," Ginsburg said in a statement she, too, read from the bench.

In the courtroom Thursday were retired Justice John Paul Stevens and the wives of Roberts, Alito, Breyer, Kennedy and Thomas.

Comments

coachjohnson42 2 years, 1 month ago

OBAMA!!!! OBAMA!!!!! OBAMA!!!!!!! YEAH BABY!!!!!!! OBAMA ROCKS THE HOUSE!!!!!! (the repub house) GO OBAMACARE!!!!! YEAH BABY!!!!!!!!!!

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Shinedownfan 2 years, 1 month ago

Coach, you DO know that this is NOT free Health Insurance, dont you? You do know that employers are gonna opt to pay the fine (tax) for not giving insurance to their employees cause it's cheaper to pay the fine than pay for the employee insurance coverage, dont you? You do know this means people with insurance thru their job will have to go to the state to buy the obamacare coverage, dont you... and this is not free... and if you dont buy the obamacare coverage, you will have to pay the fine (tax) and the IRS will collect it, via withholding it from your tax refund, or garnishment to wages or even jail time if you cant pay the fine... you DO know that, dont you? Nancy Pelosi said, jail time will be incentive for people to pay the fine (tax) for not buying the obamacare health insurance coverage. You know all this, dont you???

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VSU 2 years, 1 month ago

Coach doesn't have a clue, he thinks Obama just gave him a sucker. Little does Da Corch know that he is the sucker.

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coachjohnson42 2 years, 1 month ago

actually, you are the sucker.......you lost!!!

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VSU 2 years, 1 month ago

But in the end you will lose. hope you don't lose your minimum wage job.

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coachjohnson42 2 years, 1 month ago

Healthcare reform was LONG OVERDUE.....and those of us who already have insurance could care-less because it does not affect us........I just love it when OBAMA ROCKS the HATERS again.........GO OBAMA!!!

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Somebody 2 years, 1 month ago

You're right you don't care about nobody else because you are a selfish loser. It would be funny if this came back to bite you on the butt. Talk about poetic justice.

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Shinedownfan 2 years, 1 month ago

If you read my reply, you would realize it DOES affect us who have employee health insurance... employeers will opt out, and we will lose our current coverage. It affects everyone... whether you can afford insurance or not... you will have to get it OR pay a fine or go to jail, HELLO!

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VSU 2 years, 1 month ago

You can't teach an idiot anything, teaching Da Corch is like trying to teach a tree to get up an dance.

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agonized 2 years, 1 month ago

Shinedownfan, thank you for explaining. I really don't know why people are so jubilant. The best provisions of the bill are already in effect. The individual mandate does NOT mean free insurance raining from the sky. All of the good provisions of the bill will be decimated by the individual mandate. Insurance will be astronomical.

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Jimboob 2 years, 1 month ago

CNN says it's unconstitutional... Who's right?

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Jimboob 2 years, 1 month ago

Nevermind. They changed it.

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coachjohnson42 2 years, 1 month ago

OBAMA!!!! OBAMA!!!!! OBAMA!!!!!!! YEAH BABY!!!!!!! OBAMA ROCKS THE HOUSE!!!!!! (the repub house) GO OBAMACARE!!!!! YEAH BABY!!!!!!!!!!

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chinaberry25 2 years, 1 month ago

I do hope they go after you first. And don't lose that job you have. You will still have to cover yourself. GET ready for a revolution in this country. You food and gas money will go to cover your health care oops tax care.

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KaosinAlbany 2 years, 1 month ago

They should have mandated either for healthcare cost to go down or some kind of regulation on the costs or health insurance premiums go down because many working people who have no insurance cannot afford both.

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waltspecht 2 years, 1 month ago

The working class will once more be on the short end of the stick to cover the non-working in this Country. One more step towards Socialism. Wonder how long it will take for the employers to start dropping, or making their health care secondary to this? It is good for those that couldn't, or wouldn't pay their own way. It isn't good for those folks that had Company provided health care, and those retirees that thought they had it.

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billstrickland 2 years, 1 month ago

How companies may interpret this will vary from place to place and depend somewhat on company size. However, company contributions to employee health insurance are part of company benefits paid in lieu of salary/wages; they're not a gift from the company to the employee.

While it is certain that in many ways tax revenues go to support people who should be supporting themselves, the rationale for the ACA is basically to make as many Americans as physically healthy as possible. Health and education of the American people do not constitute a step toward Socialism; they constitute a key part of national security interests.

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Nous_Defions 2 years, 1 month ago

This SCOTUS ruling has demonstrated that we have progressed so far down the "Slippery Slope" of socialism that we can never reclaim the vision of the Founding Fathers.

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ObjectiveEyes 2 years, 1 month ago

"The Affordable Care Act is constitutional in part and unconstitutional in part The individual mandate cannot be upheld as an exercise of Congress's power under the Commerce Clause," Roberts wrote

So, which is it? I'm confused.

The fact is, Obama lied. The individual mandate is a TAX. Obama said it wasn't.

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Shinedownfan 2 years, 1 month ago

Yep, he just gave us all the biggest tax increase in history... something he said he wouldnt do. Oh well...

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coachjohnson42 2 years, 1 month ago

I'll donate the first dollar ....

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VSU 2 years, 1 month ago

What a cheapskate, at least donate the first 2 dollars....Your money is probably counterfeit anyway...nevermind.

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ObjectiveEyes 2 years, 1 month ago

Yep, 21 new taxes, generating $675 billion. 12 of which impact those households making less than $250,000 per year. So many Obama lies, so little time...

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Progressive 2 years, 1 month ago

I agree OE. This is not a victory for Obama. This is just another deceiving statement he and the democrat puppets got caught in about it not being a TAX. We need honest servants, not dishonest dictators.

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Cartman 2 years, 1 month ago

We're now too far gone. I'm ready to embrace the horror. Let the collapse continue. Oh well! It was a nice country while it lasted.

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coachjohnson42 2 years, 1 month ago

that how we felt when BUSH was President......

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VSU 2 years, 1 month ago

One word best describes Obama...."Liar" This is why I don't trust Obama, tells too many lies. Instead of the cartoons with the big ears, they should have the cartoon with the growing nose.

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VSU 2 years, 1 month ago

No, but you need to grow up. You act like a 5 year girl with your stupid post above.

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coachjohnson42 2 years, 1 month ago

awww.....you need a hug too dont you??? poor baby!!!

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VSU 2 years, 1 month ago

You need a brain that is older than 5 years.

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coachjohnson42 2 years, 1 month ago

there, there, sport.....its ok....maybe you will win next time.....Obama wont be President forever.......just 4 more years......then you can run against him ...ok sport!!! Now, go wipe your nose and stop all that crying......

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VSU 2 years, 1 month ago

You need to wipe your bu..., I meant brush your teeth, still smells like the dog poop Obama has been feeding you.

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erudite 2 years, 1 month ago

Hey, I know lots of 5 year old girls who are pretty cool....why is wrong to act like a 5 year old girl? How about not using gender to insult people?

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VSU 2 years, 1 month ago

"FLUSH" The one word that describes what Obama is doing to this country..Flushing it right down the toilet.

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Brother_Love 2 years, 1 month ago

Come on Brother VSU, can't you show our president some love? The best president to ever set foot in the white house. Please show some love and show president Obama his due proper respect.

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chinaberry25 2 years, 1 month ago

He has just given Romney the White House. It should not be too hard for Republicans to win now.

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VSU 2 years, 1 month ago

What planet did you come from? Also I am not your brother.

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coachjohnson42 2 years, 1 month ago

Good point Brother_Love!!!! He needs to show some respect!!!!

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Brother_Love 2 years, 1 month ago

Thank you Brother Johnson. You seem like an intelligent person. I've noticed too much hate spreaded on this forum...but not you Brother Johnson, I have seen your posts spreading the words of love and people seem to hate on you for it. People don't appreciate your words of wisdom. Don't worry about the haters Brother Johnson. You just need to know that you are right and they are wrong. Just keep being yourself.

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coachjohnson42 2 years, 1 month ago

Thanks Brother Love...and may I say that your kind words of LOVE have softened the evil souls of those who hate for a living. You are a great citizen and I wish you much success as your journey through these evil blogs.......KEEP LOVE ALIVE!!!

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VSU 2 years, 1 month ago

You two lovebirds are made for each other, but please take your love talk to the bedroom and not the blogs.

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erudite 2 years, 1 month ago

Vote is 4 repub to 4 dem SC justices. Approved by vote of REPUBLICAN seated by GW Bush. So, whose care is this?

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coachjohnson42 2 years, 1 month ago

(spiking the football) WHATS UP REPUBS?????? OBAMA!!!! OBAMA!!!!! OBAMA!!!!!!! YEAH BABY!!!!!!! OBAMA ROCKS THE HOUSE!!!!!! (the repub house) GO OBAMACARE!!!!! YEAH BABY!!!!!!!!!!

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VSU 2 years, 1 month ago

Obuma said this is a victory for all americans. That's a heap of bullsh....It's no victory for me. I predict it will be short lived however. I saw on Fox News that 60% of the votors disapprove of this decision.

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chinaberry25 2 years, 1 month ago

This will cause 1000's of losses of jobs. The DOD jobs have already announced that over 100,000 alone will be laid off in Dec. The mom and pops will start soon and no more hiring unless they have to. It will be overtime city. Cheaper than hiring a newbie. Each family will have to fork out around $700 per mouth to be covered or pay a fine. Thanks Obama, you have broken America in less than 4 years. How does it feel?

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Somebody 2 years, 1 month ago

This decision should encourage American citizens even more to vote for Romney. America can't afford 4 more years of this idiot. Things can only get worse!

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coachjohnson42 2 years, 1 month ago

not for me....I love it....The best years of my life during this presidency!! 4 more years!!!

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coachjohnson42 2 years, 1 month ago

I like watching the biased news network like FOXNEWS during times like this. EGG ON THEIR FACES!!! (They were about to cry just like VSU)....This was FOXNEWS a few minutes ago......Boo Hooo.....Obamacare is soo bad....Boo hooo......he gonna tax us.....boo hooo.........I dont want Obama to help me because I'm a good old boy who dont need his help....boo hooooo........I want my health care provider to continue to jack up my premiums when I get sick....Booo Hoooo, I wanna go broke when I get sick from trying to pay for super high health care...Booo Hooooo......I am so sick of OBAMA being RIGHT.....BOO HOO.....mommy mommy.....Obama care is soo bad ........I am crying and I cant stop......

hahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!

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VSU 2 years, 1 month ago

I know now why you laugh so much. You spend so much time looking at yourself in the mirror you can't help but laugh out loud. After all you are one big joke. I know how you feel coach. I laugh a lot too thinking all the times VSU beat your sucky ASU team.

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coachjohnson42 2 years, 1 month ago

Here's another tissue loser.......(blow your nose sport)

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Jacob 2 years, 1 month ago

Wow. Even for you, that was idiotic.

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Shinedownfan 2 years, 1 month ago

Ii can't begin to understand how ignorant he continues to be... how ignorant he is, and how happy he is, I guess the phrase "ignorance is bliss" is so true when it comes to da corch.

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VSU 2 years, 1 month ago

We will be heading into another recession. Obama never gave this country a chance to recover. Maybe Da Corch will lose his miimum wage job, get put in jail because he couldn't pay his fine. Then we can all have a good laugh.

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VSU 2 years, 1 month ago

Hey Coach...don't worry, if you get put in jail, I'll come visit you and toss you some peanuts. You can stomp on them and make you some jailmade peanut butter.

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Brother_Love 2 years, 1 month ago

It appears what we have here is an overwhelming lack of love being displayed here. So many hateful comments spewing from the minds of lost souls typying away on their keyboards. Our great president has just declared a big victory for all of America with this healthcare reform bill and do Americans embrace this wonderful news with open arms? They do not! Their minds are too filled up with hate to see the edge of the rainbow. I felt the warmth of love filling my heart when I heard the wonderful news from our great fearless leader about this healthcare reform bill. I had goosebumps on top of goosebumps listening to the president triumphant victory. Join me as I clap my hands in applause for President Obama. Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!

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coachjohnson42 2 years, 1 month ago

I'm joining you in a standing ovation.....4 more years!!! , 4 more years!!! Go Obama Go.....kick more butt........Go Obama Go.....make em shut up.....Go Obama Go, kick more butt.....Go Obama Go....make em shut up......

hahahahahaha......I love it......

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VSU 2 years, 1 month ago

Just saw where the stocks took a plunge after the announcement of the supreme court ruling. Recession...check that...Depression here we come.

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Abytaxpayer 2 years, 1 month ago

Coach one Question? If Obuma,s Healthcare plan is so GREAT why did he personally see to it that a large number of his union supporters were exempted right after the bill pasted and why are the Democrats not giving up their private healthcare program and taking Obuma’s program. Maybe what is so Good for the Dumbacrates is not so good for the insider friends of Obuma. Once again you have been told what to believe and you did with no questions…Good Luck and give it your best double-talk try.

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coachjohnson42 2 years, 1 month ago

Your credibility is shot....so you get NO REPLY!!! lol

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Abytaxpayer 2 years, 1 month ago

Credibility yep that is your strong suit,,,,,,Stop running and hiding from the TRUTH. When you can’t bend the truth you RUN and Hide.

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VSU 2 years, 1 month ago

Well it's simple, they say the businesses will pay a fine if they don't offer their employees insurance. Their response to that will be to just let a lot of employees go. Less employees, less insurance for them to pay and less or no fines. I thought the idea was to get american people back to work, not scare away potential employees because they don't want to pay the insurance. The losers will be those without jobs, and this is a victory for all Americans? If you believe that, I've got a nice winter resort complete with Ski lifts and sleighs to sell you real cheap in Central Mexico for about $550, but for you coach, since we are bosom buddies, I'll let you have it for $2000.

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coachjohnson42 2 years, 1 month ago

Boo Hooo.....Obamacare is soo bad....Boo hooo......he gonna tax us.....boo hooo.........I dont want Obama to help me because I'm a good old boy who dont need his help....boo hooooo........I want my health care provider to continue to jack up my premiums when I get sick....Booo Hoooo, I wanna go broke when I get sick from trying to pay for super high health care...Booo Hooooo......I am so sick of OBAMA being RIGHT.....BOO HOO.....mommy mommy.....Obama care is soo bad ........I am crying and I cant stop......

OBAMA CARE IS HERE!!!! DEAL WITH IT....!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHA

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VSU 2 years, 1 month ago

You are sick, you don't need a medical doctor, you need to see a head doctor. I am sure he won't find anything up there but a hollow head.

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erudite 2 years, 1 month ago

What would be ideal? What do Americans want? Should there be health insurance at all? What is health insurance anyhow? A guarantee of payment? Is that where its usefulness ends? Should people have to pay cash at the time of service? Those who can afford to see a licensed physician, physician's assistant, nurse practioner, psychiatrist, or other specialist can and those who can't afford it can't?

Perhaps it is time to return to the old tyme religion and use Mother Nature for healing, produce pure (non-gmo's) foods, and maintain clean water.

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coachjohnson42 2 years, 1 month ago

WE WON, WE WON, WE WON......(spiking the football and doing another happy dance)......

YEA!!!!!!!!! WE WON!!!!!

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Abytaxpayer 2 years, 1 month ago

Coach one Question? If Obuma,s Healthcare plan is so GREAT why did he personally see to it that a large number of his union supporters were exempted right after the bill pasted and why are the Democrats not giving up their private healthcare program and taking Obuma’s program. Maybe what is so Good for the Dumbacrates is not so good for the insider friends of Obuma. Once again you have been told what to believe and you did with no questions…Good Luck and give it your best double-talk try. Or just run away as usual!!!!!

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coachjohnson42 2 years, 1 month ago

WE WON, WE WON, WE WON......(spiking the football and doing another happy dance)......

YEA!!!!!!!!! WE WON!!!!!

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Abytaxpayer 2 years, 1 month ago

Coach one Question? If Obuma,s Healthcare plan is so GREAT why did he personally see to it that a large number of his union supporters were exempted right after the bill pasted and why are the Democrats not giving up their private healthcare program and taking Obuma’s program. Maybe what is so Good for the Dumbacrates is not so good for the insider friends of Obuma. Once again you have been told what to believe and you did with no questions…Good Luck and give it your best double-talk try. Or just run away as usual!!!!!

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TrixibelleBento 2 years, 1 month ago

I thought I'd see some intelligent discourse here rather than Coach jumping around with a brown nose.

We are doomed...

I have insurance and am waiting for my rates to skyrocket to pay for the folks who can't. Why oh why do I have to work so others don't have to?

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agonized 2 years, 1 month ago

What I want to know is has Coach read the bill or even a summary? He said he has insurance but isn't concerned, so I'm guessing the answer is no. This is what I dreaded: not the bill passing because I believe it will be repealed, but the gloating of President Obama and his supporters acting like WE WON, YOU LOSE and then the divisive commentary of both parties. It's sickening--from both sides. Nope, sorry, we all lost.

I'd like to see a list of people who have actually read the bill, including officials from both parties. I have a feeling it's very few.

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rightasrain 2 years, 1 month ago

What it means is that Trauma Obama won't be re-elected! What it means is that someone with intellect will be in the White House! What it means is...NA NA NA NA, NA NA NA NA, HEY HEY, GOOD BYE! What it means is that everything this loser did to destroy this great nation WILL be repealed.

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