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Official: School capacities OK

Live Oak Elementary students board a school bus at the end of a school day. Dougherty County School System Director of Finance and Operations Robert Lloyd said the system is operating at normal occupancy capacities overall in its elementary, middle and high schools, and the system is working on removing portable classrooms as soon as possible.

Live Oak Elementary students board a school bus at the end of a school day. Dougherty County School System Director of Finance and Operations Robert Lloyd said the system is operating at normal occupancy capacities overall in its elementary, middle and high schools, and the system is working on removing portable classrooms as soon as possible.

ALBANY — Dougherty County School System Director of Finance and Operations Robert Lloyd said the system is operating at normal occupancy capacities overall in its elementary, middle and high schools, and the system is working on removing portable classrooms as soon as possible.

Lloyd made the statement at a hastily-called news conference Friday after The Albany Herald on Wednesday obtained the numbers after making separate requests over four weeks for capacities and occupancy rates at all 26 of the system’s schools.

“We are at 88 percent capacity in our elementary schools, 75 percent at our middle schools and 99 percent at our high schools,” Lloyd said.

The news conference was called because school officials contend the numbers The Herald obtained on Wednesday, which showed lower occupancy percentages, were “inaccurate.” New numbers were given out at the news conference.

With the system facing at least a $9 million budget shortfall for FY 2012-13, the DCSS BOE has said all options are on the table, including possible consolidation or closure of some schools.

“We have looked at the numbers and have drawn some conclusions and will present them to the School Board,” Lloyd said.

Under the revised numbers, Magnolia Elementary is running at 46 percent capacity. Magnolia has 463 students enrolled in a building with a capacity of 560 and 450 seats in portable classrooms to boost total capacity to 1,010.

The portables, however, remain largely empty and are on site in anticipation of a major renovation of the school. If those portables are not counted, Magnolia’s capacity rises to 83 percent.

The DCSS currently has 3,500 seats in portable buildings, but the system has no numbers on how many of those seats are actually in use.

Lloyd said the system’s goal is to eventually remove all portable classrooms. Still, the numbers are light at some schools without portables.

Alice Coachman Elementary, with 393 students in a building that has a 620 capacity, is running at 63 percent capacity. Live Oak Elementary, with 490 students in a building with a capacity of 725, is operating at 68 percent.

On the flip side, Lincoln Magnet, with a capacity of 750 (and no portables), has 904 students and is running at 121 percent capacity. Sherwood Acres, with 768 students, is operating at 113 percent.

The middle school numbers are similarly skewed.

Dougherty International, with a building capacity of 1,092 (not including 180 portables), has 528 students and is operating at 42 percent capacity.

Southside Middle, with a capacity of 780 and no portables, has 435 students and is running at 56 percent capacity.

Radium Springs Middle, however, with a capacity of 675 and no portables, is just over capacity at 680 students.

At the high schools, Dougherty, which is currently being renovated, has a building capacity of 1,020 and 600 portable seats, which are not counted toward occupancy. Dougherty has 911 students and is running at 89 percent capacity.

Monroe, with 1,186 students, is operating at 116 percent capacity.

“We have some schools operating at over-capacity,” Lloyd said, “and we are restricting the intake into those schools.”

Comments

MRKIA 2 years, 4 months ago

ANY REASON WHY THE UNUSED PORTABLES HAVEN'T BEEN INSTALLED AT THE SCHOOLS OVER CAPACITY? WASN'T THAT THE REASON THEY WERE PURCHASED IN THE FIRST PLACE, TO BE PLACED WHERE NEEDED? MURFREE, YOU PROBABLY READ THIS STUFF, WHATS THE DEAL?

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Abytaxpayer 2 years, 4 months ago

MRKIA please release the caps lock key. But a very good question you asked. Thanks

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benh1936 2 years, 4 months ago

That would imply that someone involved has common sense. We know that is not true.

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Abytaxpayer 2 years, 4 months ago

Darn it all Terry would you STOP asking so many revealing questions. Don’t you know it is hard for roaches to hide when you keep shining lights on them

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Abytaxpayer 2 years, 4 months ago

Guess they showed you Terry they make you beg for four weeks and they still can't tell you the truth on Weds but they can find it by Friday or is that just a new "truth" on Friday. Such shining examples of Honor and Integrity for our youth.

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LuLu 2 years, 4 months ago

It sounds like they're saying that someone at DCSS can't do basic math.

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chinaberry25 2 years, 4 months ago

Some of these figures are getting screwed. Channel 10 say Lincoln is 48%. I knew this was not correct because they area a full magnet school. At the high schools, they are hanging off the roofs. Not much leaway to do any transferring.

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dingleberry 2 years, 4 months ago

Have these numbers passed the erasure test? Perhaps we are seeing why students don't so well in math--the "grown ups" in charge seem to have problems too. All of which raises the question, will these be the numbers next Tuesday and Thursday a week from now? Everything is beautiful in the DCSS--and if you don't think so, just ask us!

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benh1936 2 years, 4 months ago

You will never get an honest answer from the DCSS, not as long as the fox is guarding the hen house.

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PatrickY2K 2 years, 4 months ago

The DCSS doesn't need to close schools to save money, as long as the teachers will continue to accept ten furlough days each year. They have only two days to prepare for the first day of school, yet rooms are decorated, lessons are prepared, and kids are greeted on the first day. They don't have any planning days during the school year, yet papers are graded, lessons are prepared, and parent conferences are held.

Thank you, teachers, for being conscientious enough to complete your job in less time, not allowing the kids to suffer, and helping the DCSS balance the budget.

Feel like a doormat? You should. As long as you do the same job in less time, why should you ever expect to get those ten days back? Suckers.

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Abytaxpayer 2 years, 4 months ago

Pat you are so right the GOOD Hard Working Teachers are doing the same job just with Less pay. The Good Teachers are still doing the same amount of work, if not more, because they have INTEGRITY and want our kids to learn. The sad part is they are forced to work besides lying cheating teachers who think nothing of stealing from a child’s future by erasing the answers and not teaching the answers. Hats off to the GOOD Hard working Teachers in DCSS and the rest should be replaced for the sake of our children.

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PatrickY2K 2 years, 4 months ago

How about treating the good teachers fairly? I'm sure they are much more concerned with receiving fair compensation for their work, than what happens to the 30 teachers who cheated with the CRCT. Investing in the teachers would do the most good for the school system. Can't attract good teachers? Can't keep good teachers? Please don't act surprised when the DCSS continues to have problems.

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Bubbavet_rureel 2 years, 4 months ago

What's a good teacher? What's a bad teacher? If a teacher are accussed, does that make them bad?

Jesus was accussed, does hat make him bad? He was placed in jail, does that make him bad?

Say due process twice, I hope that clear up any misunderstandings you may have.

Thanks friend!

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PatrickY2K 2 years, 4 months ago

Good teachers are the ones who work hard 180 days (177 with students, 3 without, and ten less than contracted) and do not deserve a fourth year of reduced pay. Robert Lloyd said "everything is on the table", but that does not include reducing teacher furlough days.

I'm really not concerned with the 30 who "cheated" (though I do not believe the investigation produced accurate results) other than they are wasting DCSS funds by sitting instead of working.

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Abytaxpayer 2 years, 4 months ago

Pat you are very close to right. The Good Teachers should be treated fairly. However the good teachers (at least the ones I know) know as long as the cheaters are protected and remain in the DCSS system the public thinks most teachers are corrupt. One bad apple spoils the whole barrel. The Good Teachers wish the Board would cut out the cancer so the healing could begin and the Public would begin praising Teachers instead of throwing rocks. I have been a big supporter of cleaning house and removing all involved no matter how big or small their involvement. These were All Adults and they made adult choices to cheat and steal from our Youth. The cheating has cast a shadow over Teachers who had nothing to do with it and that is disheartening to many Good Teachers and will drive them away and what Good Teacher wants to come to a system where they will be disrespected just for being a Teacher.

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whattheheck 2 years, 4 months ago

Since the DCSS seems to be picking up steam in getting to real numbers after passing out unreal numbers, has it considered looking for the real number of rats that are eating our cheese free at lunchtime? In the upcoming week, let's concentrate on the number of fraud cases in the subsidized lunch program. We have heard of two "suspected" cases but I have heard there may be more than two. Duh huh?

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Terry.Lewis 2 years, 4 months ago

The problem is unless someone on the inside with access to the applications notifies the DCSS PD, it's a moot point.

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benh1936 2 years, 4 months ago

I would bet you good money that many rats city-wide, state-wide and nation-wide are eating our cheese for free when they should be paying. It is time someone with some real authority and ability gets involved. Maybe the GAO?

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bubbavet 2 years, 4 months ago

Why should anyone believe anything the DCSS has to say about anything?

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MRKIA 2 years, 4 months ago

I ASKED A SIMPLE QUESTION ABOUT THE USE OF PORTABLES EXPECTING A DCSS CHEERLEADER TO RESPOND. WELL??? THE SILENCE IS DEAFENING.

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AlbPieMaster 2 years, 4 months ago

Well it would be Simple math to either move the students to the empty seats or the seats to the students. But as Mr. Lewis found out it takes DCSS four weeks just to do fuzzy math.

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chinaberry25 2 years, 4 months ago

As long as you are shouting, no on will answer. Turn off the CAPS and u will not be ignored.

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LuLu 2 years, 4 months ago

I don't think there a very many DCSS cheerleaders here TO respond.

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chinaberry25 2 years, 4 months ago

Some of the reasons for not moving the portables is because the schools are being remodeled and they are moving classrooms into them. Especially in the high schools. Not elementary tho9ugh.

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AlbPieMaster 2 years, 4 months ago

SMELLS LIKE ANOTHER STATE OF GEORGIA INVESTIGATION COMING TO DCSS. If DCSS in four weeks cannot figure out how many students they have and where they are, then what kind of numbers are they giving the State for the FTE money?

Maybe #34 can assure the State there is NO cheating going on here, just like he did for the erasure cheating.

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Bubbavet_rureel 2 years, 4 months ago

We the tax payer believe in them, and that's what matters. We're paying the bills around here, and we know where you guys are coming from.

Speak facts, thanks.

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Abytaxpayer 2 years, 4 months ago

O Double Heck No the Taxpayers Do NOT Believe them or trust them.

  • Fact 1. Georgia School systems are required by Law to account for all students in it's system.
  • Fact 2. For 4 weeks the numbers were requested and DCSS stalled it’s answer and still could not produce two sets of matching numbers only days apart.
  • Fact 3. DCSS engineered a cover up in an attempt to stop the State from investigating the cheating.
  • Fact 4. State investigators denounced the DCSS report and published the true fact about the corruption.
  • Fact 5. #34 was hired not because he was certified or qualified but because he was friends with a Board member

  • That should be enough Fact for you to choke on for a while.

But judging from your apathy and your implications you are trying to imply that those who speak out must think that the desire to make a positive difference in children with Knowledge, Honesty and Integrity only comes in one color. You are an insult to those of us who seek Quality over color. People like you are not interested in what is Best for the Children just their own little war against moving forward in this country.

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Bubbavet_rureel 2 years, 4 months ago

I must be blind, because you have only published accusations, show me the facts. The Teachers are still employed and working, they have not been convicted or found guilty by anyone, including you. Your opinion is all you have, I'm sorry but you cant speak for the tax payers, you can only speak for yourself. We're happy with the system, look at these facts: 1. We vote them back in office. 2. The kids are progressing under Dr. Murfree. 3. The Teachers are getting due process. 4.The tax payers are happpy!!!!!. 5. Your opinion is not worth choking on, we know what you're hiding behind. 6. President Obama will get 4 more years!!!

Lastly, make a stand and tell us what you're really thinking, because we're assuming something!!

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Abytaxpayer 2 years, 4 months ago

Ok I must accept that you are blind. You appear to have never read any of my previous post, even the ones just above.

MY Stand

  • 1 The best possible and most highly qualified teachers for our children-
  • 2 The best possible leadership for our Teachers.
  • ........a. Beginning with the school board followed by the Best qualified superintendent followed by qualified principals with class room experience.

Now please explain

  • 1 . How you support and vote for the people you put on the school board

  • 2 . Especially one proven to be stealing from free lunch program

  • 3 . Why you are so satisfied that the person ranked #34 on a list was hired as superintendent who had to received special wavers because he was not qualified but was a close from of a board member

  • 4 . How as a taxpayer you can be satisfied with at least a $9 million budget shortfall

  • 5 . At just what point did being against lying, cheating, short changing students and asking for more better qualified people with integrity to be the ones leading and teaching our children become a racist cry. Sorry I just never knew integrity and qualifications could be limited to just one race. So I am a little confused that you think quality, qualified and integrity are some kind of code words for something I am hiding behind.

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chinaberry25 2 years, 4 months ago

The taxpayers are not happy, what hole did you come out of.

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LuLu 2 years, 4 months ago

Bubbavet_rureel, are YOU real?? In one sentence you say that Abytaxpayer can't speak for the taxpayers, and in the very next sentence, you say you can?!! YES, you ARE blind!

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Bubbavet_rureel 2 years, 4 months ago

LuLu,

Lesson one, everyone has a voice, negative or positive. Lesson two, being critical on selective issues are noted. Lesson three, your comments are note taken seriously, when they sang the same negative racist tone. Lesson four, I will pray for you and you pray for me. Lesson five, stay in your lane, grown folks are handling business.

Do you want to be my friend?

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bubbasmithredneck 2 years, 4 months ago

Get 'em BUBBA!!! (are you my cousin?)

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tywebb 2 years, 4 months ago

i'm a tax payer and i'm NOT happy! I'm sorry but you can't speak for the tax payers either! As I was reading your post, I was asking myself......I said self....Is this person an idiot??? And then I saw your numbers 2, 4, and 6.....and I had to answer myself with a resounding YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!

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Bubbavet_rureel 2 years, 4 months ago

Comments are great, what can you say good about the system? What service have you given the children? Why cant we all get along?

A good society is one with rationalism, people are not perfect, are they? people are learning arent they? You are planting negative seeds, what do you think will come up in your garden of life? Why are you so negative toward a majority black system? Please come back with something positive for a change, because we the tax payers have tuned your negative comments out.

Remember we vote our true opinions and thats a fact, we understand where you're coming from, keep hope alive, this is the good life city, please do your part, we need your help, we need people like you, the kids need positive assets like you.

  • Remember to vote!
  • Pray for our system
  • Say something positive

Keep up the good work!!

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Abytaxpayer 2 years, 4 months ago

Again read my past for positives (Coach protest each time I list them). Our difference comes down to you see DCSS as a Majority Black system and you feel it is adequate and fight to protect it based simply on race. While I see DCSS as a broken system that is adversely affecting both Black and White students and feel there are No sacred cows regardless of race or who they know.

Education is the only way up for our kids without it the world will leave them behind.

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MRKIA 2 years, 4 months ago

HERE'S A FACT: BEING A REGISTERED VOTER DOES NOT AUTOMATICALLY MAKE ONE A TAXPAYER.

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Bubbavet_rureel 2 years, 4 months ago

OK, however you dont know the difference between facts and accusations:

  1. The sysytem teachers have the same state qualifications as other systems - Fact.
  2. Knowone has been convicted or proven guilty in the lunch room cases - Fact, they have been afforded due process.
  3. Dr. Murfree is highly qualified, get over it, he has the Job - Fact, speculation want help
  4. Shortfalls come from the economy - Tax collections for homes, business... Fact
  5. The teachers are only accussed, not found guilty of the things you listed, Fact
  6. The Majority of tax payers are happy, look at how and who we vote for, Fact
  7. 99% of people, or their families pay some sort of taxes, Fact
  8. You are guided by race and thats a Fact
  9. I read MRKIA, Abytaxpayer, LuLu, and the others comments, and trust me I recognize the tone.
  10. Your opinion dont rule anything, and that's a Fact.

Lastly, I asked if you could say something positive, and you tried but, you let your negative responses over shadow the positives. Since you appear to be perfect, I will try to understand where you're coming from. I'm sorry if I said something negative, even if it were facts, however, the facts speaks for themselves. Speculation and the unknowns create an environment where people make things up, they speak their opinion and not facts. When you convict someone before they have their day in court, including slandering their good names, it fosters a bad society. The framers of the constitution wrote the constitution to guide us after we came from under British rule. These people regardless of their color have basic rights, they are citizens with hope, they are depending on you and I, for their rights protection. They are certified professionals who have given their time to educate society's children. Please stop throwing them under the bus. Given them their due process under the law, then if they are found guilty, pray for them, dont say "see I told you so", because that will not give you satisfaction and closure you're looking for. Show love, plant love, give love, and it will bring you happiness. Aristotle stated 'that no matter what your class of life is - you must make friends with everyone, and this will create a good society".

Can we be friends?????????

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Abytaxpayer 2 years, 4 months ago

First we don't count spelling here..everyone gets one wrong every now and then.

  • 1 No one has questioned a Teachers qualification. We do question a Few and ONLY a very Few teachers integrity and should that caliber of person should be teaching children life lessons. Quality in quality out. A Teacher with low standards teaches by example low standards.

  • 2 True no one has been convicted but several have been charged with overwhelming evidence. You choose to ignore the evidence because they have not been to court yet. How would you feel if we were talking about a pedophile, just because he had not been put in jail would you want him alone with your kids. We are not talking about a unfounded allegation we are talking overwhelming evidence.

  • 3 #34 has the job indeed. Fact is he was chosen because of friendship to board members and not qualifications. See public records. The State of Ga said he was NOT qualified and MUST have a waiver from the DCSS to be allowed to take the job. Being #34 on a list or lack of accreditations is not speculation, it is Public records. You “get over it” and settle for mediocre while I desire better. How about if you DO NOT desire the best just move up to say #10 or even #20 but 34th really that is the best you desire. And surely not all 33 were white so where is your problem desiring better?

  • 4 The City and County but have money in reserve. While the economy is a BIG factor so is management of funds.

  • 5 True the Teachers are accused but again with overwhelming evidence.

  • 6 Sadly you are right except I would not say they are Happy but just content to settle for what they have and not desire to do better. Don’t rock the boat.

  • 7 100% of anyone with money pay taxes no way around it. Unless you are a Hospital :-)

  • 8 I am lost on this one. Not once have I made a statement for or against DCSS based on race. I am guessing because you see DCSS as a “majority black system” and you feel based on the fact I am white and speaking out for improvement that I must be against your “majority black” and not really wanting to improve the quality just change the color. Seriously how can we make improvements if you are seeing color as the controlling factor and not the desire to reach for the Best possible.

  • 9 Glad you see the tone ( not hard to miss in some) but sorry you can’t see your own house burning down around you. If we ALL keep putting race first we will never move forward, just run in circles going nowhere.

  • 10 An opinion is a subjective belief, and is the result of emotion or interpretation of facts. An opinion may be supported by an argument, although people may draw opposing opinions from the same set of facts. Without different opinions we would all be driving gray cars with 4 doors. Opinions allow us to decide what we will settle for in life. i.e That is good enough for me, that dress does not make you look fat, that hair style is cute….etc. Opinions are what make us individuals.

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Abytaxpayer 2 years, 4 months ago

Your opinion and my opinion are both subjective beliefs. To me it appears:

Your opinion is DCSS is just fine and you are satisfied and just leave it and alone and “get over it” My opinion is DCSS has a lot highly qualified people at most ranks that are marred and over shadowed by a FEW less than desirable (to me) to shape and mold our children’s futures. If you wish to seriously continue this discussion then send me an e-mail and we can talk. One more question if I am so racist how do you justify my stand about Commissioner Himes stealing 200 “majority black” votes because of a technicality. Integrity just seems to be a lost value in Albany.

Education is the only hope for a better tomorrow for our children. If we settle for mediocre and do not reach for the best how do expect better for them than just mediocre.

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bubbasmithredneck 2 years, 4 months ago

wooo hooooo!!! Hey Coach........you have started a REVOLUTION BUDDY!!! BUBBAVET_RUREEL (my cousin) Is kicking tail just like you!!!! Taxpayer is on the ropes again......where's my popcorn...???

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Bubbavet_rureel 2 years, 4 months ago

StrongCheck my spelling, smile.

I post my opinions with hope for change. We must agree to disagree, this is only my opinion, and I trully respect yours. I believe we dialog because we care about education.

Have a great day!

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Sister_Ruby 2 years, 4 months ago

So happy that there is plenty of capacity. I was quite worried that Dr. M would not have anywhere to place the influx of homeschoolers that will soon be breaking down the doors, demanding seats in the classrooms of Do Co.

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Bubbavet_rureel 2 years, 4 months ago

That's right Sister Ruby, we have the space and the qualified staff, the learning doors are open. We need your help to advocate and spread the word, that our system is open and ready for business. We're moving forward, and staying positive!!

Please let's be friends and find common ground for education. Together we stand and divided we fall, some would like for us to fall, but we have come to far to fail.

Homeschoolers, churchschoolers, charterschoolers, and anyone looking for an excellent place to learn are welcome to join in our system.

The system belongs to the tax payer, and our voice speak strong words, due process, certified teachers, qualified staff, excellent learning environment, safeschools, parental involvement, community involvement, etc...

We need people that oppose us, because it keeps us on task. The message is strong and clear, we want Dr. Murfree at the helm, in fact we're fortunate to have him. The number 1 person routinley dont get the job, because the others may have had a bad day during the interview, however, it takes vision from leaders to see qualities for success in candidates and trust me we were lucky to get Dr. Murfree. He has saved the system a lot of money, and he works harder than anyone I know, he read your comments and value them I'm sure, he is a true leader, and it's not always the first that will lead sometimes it's the last. Remember leaders thrive on negatisim, it gives them something to prove.

Let's be friends!!!

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Bubbavet_rureel 2 years, 4 months ago

Hey, I'm not calling you a racist, i just saying there is good in everyone.

Response:

  1. What qualifies you to judge teachers standards, conduct, and abilties? Your judging without evidence.
  2. You have not seen nor has the system seen the overwhelming evidence, have you?
  3. It does not matter where you start, but it matters where you finish.
  4. Mismanagement is right, no evidence -no problem, stop wasting money.
  5. Again, have you seen this overwhelming evidence, not accusations.
  6. They are during great! stop standing on the sidelines and get involved. They need you!
  7. Right, non profits dont pay taxes, but they provide jobs to workers that do.
  8. I did not say you were white, black, brown, are red, I said the system is majority back, you do the math.
  9. My house is fine, I have God living in it. Casting stones are negative, do you know what positive looks like?
  10. Finally, I agree with your #10 response, however, it goes against your number 34 theory, what would the world be if we picked all the number 1 finishers? My point, what if all the number 1 finishers drove gray cars with 4 doors. I hope you see your tone and point.

Positive will beat Negative everytime!

Can we be friends??

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Bubbavet_rureel 2 years, 4 months ago

I feel you got the point, now respon with something positive about Dr. Murfree, I know you have it in you, make us proud!!

I have more important positive things to do, you can have the last word, make it count, make it positive.

Friend!

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Abytaxpayer 2 years, 4 months ago

I am Positive #34 looks cute in his bowtie.

I am Positive you are overwhelming satisfied with DCSS just as it is.

I am positive you reap what you sow.

I am positive that if you set low goals and expectations you can achieve them much easier.

I am positive the majority of voters feel just as you, proven by as you say “we keep voting them in”.

I am positive you can’t fix stupidity but you can decorate it, although I am positive a wolf in sheep’s clothing it still a wolf.

I am positive DCSS Schools are a reflection of a Large majority of Albany that feel it is good enough “so get over it”

I am positive failure to take a stand for Integrity sets an example of what is expected of our youth.

I am positive some people’s definition of quality is a Yugo while other strive for a Caddy. It doesn’t matter what they are they both get there.

I am positive if I talk till I am blue in the face you cannot see the pothole in front of your children for the glare on your windshield.

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Bubbavet_rureel 2 years, 4 months ago

CJ_Fan

I know, the truth hurts, and feels good. Please join in, and be prepared to keep up with us, I got all night to teach positive attributes.

Why cant we be friends??

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Bubbavet_rureel 2 years, 4 months ago

Using positive in a sentence is not being positive, be positive even if it doesent fill good!!

I think I will buy me a bowtie! I know that the system will continue to improve! IF I plant good seeds, I will grow good positive dreams, and hopes! I know my goals are low, however I will work harder and smarter to set higher goals! I know that the voters are voting for quality people with Intergrity!

You got the point, keep working on it!

I'm up now, I'm prepared to type all night, try me, ask LuLu, Bubbavet, and Coach Johnson about me.

Thanks Friend!

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Bubbavet_rureel 2 years, 4 months ago

Sister_Ruby,

I like this song, now we can get some where. We can work together to make changes!!!

Friends, we are, Why cant we be friends with everyone? Agree to Disagree

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MRKIA 2 years, 4 months ago

FACT:1. TEACHERS AND ADMINISTRATORS ARE ACCUSED OF CHEATING 2. TEACHER AND SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER CHARGED WITH RECIEVING FREE SCHOOL LUNCHS 3. TEACHERS AND PRINCIPLE ACCUSED OF SEXUAL CRIMES 4. THE DCSS HIRES THE 34TH PLACE FINISHER WHO WAS NOT QUALIFIED BY HAVING THE NEED FOR A MENTOR AND OBTAINING THE PROPER CREDENTIALS AND NEVER HAVING BEEN A CLASSROOM TEACHER OR AN ADMINISTRATOR IN A PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM.5. YOU HAVE A SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER WHO APPEARS TO NOT HAVE FINISHED HIGH SCHOOL OR HAVE A GED.THE MAJORITY OF VOTORS MIGHT BE CONTENT WITH THIS BUT I GUARANTEE YOU THE TAXPAYERS ARE NOT. BTW: NOT SALES TAXPAYERS, I MEAN INCOME, PROPERTY, BUSINESS ECT.. I'M REFERRING TO PRODUCERS NOT CONSUMERS.

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Bubbavet_rureel 2 years, 4 months ago

Thanks for doing your best to be positive, now that I have your attention, please do the following:

  1. Go by and volunteer, we need your energy.
  2. Look at things on the positive side, treat others the way you would like to be treated.
  3. Change takes time, we need you to advocate "good for the system.
  4. Constructive comments are welcomed, dont tell me the problem tell me how to fix it!
  5. Support all the teachers 100%, the accussed are outstanding experienced teachers, you have not heard a word from them, they understand how you may fill, they have been working to develop our kids for years.
  6. Work to get more parents involved, learning and discipline starts at home.
  7. Thank you for your since of pride, know that we want the same, Quality and more Quality for education.
  8. Tell me how to fix the pot hole, we are paying the administrators to keep intergrity high.
  9. Look back at your positive responses, really, you can be more positive.
  10. Reap what you sow is so true, you keep downing teachers and administrators, however, I hope you reap something good out of your actions.
  11. I hope and pray that the accussed teachers will get back in the classroom soon, the children need their help. Sometimes the weakest links are never identified, I'm glad God know them, however, he will help all of us.

Thanks Friend, are we friends now???

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Bubbavet_rureel 2 years, 4 months ago

MRKIA, you seem to be smart, accussed should sound familiar, they accussed Jesus for crimes he didn't commit, lesson one:

  1. Accussations are made.
  2. Accussed are afforded due process, to clear their names.
  3. Accussations supported by evidence are handled or the lack of evidence, charges are dropped.
  4. Until then the novice truthseeker like yourself and Sister Ruby have to wait patiently
  5. Courage, Temperance, and truthseeking are good qualities to have.
  6. The syaytem will be fine, talk facts not fiction.
  7. Speculation is just that, get the facts when the other shoe drop. If the teachers are guilty, pray for them.
  8. Read the constitution, both of them Georgia and the United States.
  9. Stay positive, dont waste your time being negative.
  10. You can win being negative, you will just make yourself look uneducated.

Be my friend, can you do that?

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MRKIA 2 years, 4 months ago

THE FIRST POST IN I ONLY ASKED DR, MURFREE ABOUT THE BEST USE OF DCSS PORTABLES . HOW DID IT GET TO THIS? NOW, WHAT ABOUT THE PORTABLES?

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MRKIA 2 years, 4 months ago

FRIENDS? CONSIDER IT DONE.

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Citizen_A 2 years, 4 months ago

It is spelled...accused, accusations. Spell check sweetie. You might want to do it prior to defending a school system.

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AlbPieMaster 2 years, 4 months ago

Don’t fret Bub-reel-boob:

Mommy brought you some pie to go with that Whipped Creaming you just got.

Since you can’t seem to read and retain. Aby has said before he works with tutoring kids and that is why he is so passionate about working for the good of students first and foremost. You and others make excuses for and defend the cheating teachers claiming there is no proof yet the State of Georgia identified them as the people who cheated or condoned it. You even called for their return to class rooms “soon”. Just how does a cheating teacher stand in front of a class and say “do as I say and Not as I do”. Aby has repeatedly call for a higher level of Integrity yet you fail to agree Integrity is even needed in DCSS. Your apathy is doing more to keep the kids down than “The Man” can ever do.

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Bubbavet_rureel 2 years, 4 months ago

PieMaster,

Thanks for comments, the constitution speaks for it self. Due you know what due process is? Do you know what an accussation is? Do you know anything about the law? If you answered no to any of my questions, go back and get the facts before you bash the accussed teachers. The system is waiting on the facts/evidence, sounds like you have the evidence, do you have the evidence? If no then you must be speculating, also my conversation purpose was to promote positivism with Aby, go back and read some of my many comments.

Do you want to be a cream facer friend? Thanks friend!

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Abytaxpayer 2 years, 4 months ago

Sis this has been my point was all along. I know and worked with Dr. John Culbreath and respect him while I have not worked personally with Dr. Whatley I thought she did a good job. But you will notice Dr Culbreath said

Dr. Whatley performed her duties with dignity and with a high degree of personal and professional integrity.

Also note the silence is deafing... Dr. Culbreath has not spoke so highly of #34

So what can you say other than Bub hit the nail on the head. #34 This is what we want and will keep supporting.

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Bubbavet_rureel 2 years, 4 months ago

Sister_Ruby, you are hired -friend!!

Peace

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Sister_Ruby 2 years, 4 months ago

When we all get to Heaven, all this BullCrap will be wiped away, along with all our Tears and all our Sins which will be buried deeper than the Titanic, never to be remembered again. And we will Know! as we have been known by God!

God will make all things new.......one day. Meanwhile we all are pilgrims who see "through a glass....yet darkly".........struggling towards God (some...not all....) but we cry out for Maranatha.....come, Lord Jesus!!

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AlbPieMaster 2 years, 4 months ago

Bub got a question...You keep crying to protect the accused Teahers and return them to the children. Change it from accused Teacher to accused Pedophile. Now do you want the same rules you ask for the teachers to apply to the Pedophile if not why and isn't abuse of children abuse of children or do you see it in degrees. Like the gunman who shots and kills with one bullet is not as bad as the gunman who uses 4 shots to kill.

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Bubbavet_rureel 2 years, 4 months ago

Hey, let's keep apples with apples, however, the constitution is solid on due process of the law.

period... everyone get it, not to mention equal protection under the law, you need to look at the constitution, stop speculating and coming up with situations that draw on moral being. The teachers will have their day in court, and they will face their accussers.

Right is Right, Wrong is Wrong, Real is Real, and Fake is Fake.

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CJ_Fan 2 years, 4 months ago

@APM STOP with the the HARD questions already you are confusing them

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bubbasmithredneck 2 years, 4 months ago

......and we have a winner....the new blog champion.....Bubbavet_rureel.......YOU KICKED SOME BUTT........shut them fools down!!! Coachjohnson42 has started a REVOLUTION!!! Coach passed the torch to the new blood and now bubbavet_rureel is torching the competition too!!! Great job man........you killed them with wisdom and kindness.......

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CJ_Fan 2 years, 4 months ago

BUBass enjoy it while you can cause there is bad news on the horizon for you and your heros. http://www.albanyherald.com/news/2012...

Your supply is getting low. But Heres your sign too.

http://www.albanyherald.com/users/photos/2012/feb/12/36465/

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Bubbavet_rureel 2 years, 4 months ago

CJ_Fan,

I dont mind being called stupid, and it takes one to know one does not apply here.

CJ, can we be friends? If the evidence support guilt, then we should continue to pray for our friends, hopefully we can rebuild them. Are you perfect? can you Judge? are you without sin? If you answered yes, go read the Bible.

Friend, CJ my friend, Cj are we friends?

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Bubbavet_rureel 2 years, 4 months ago

We're all winners! because - we're fighting for the kids future. We are getting along, we need positive constructive dialog.

I give my crown back to my new friends, facts are facts, you cant get around them.

Bubbas are all kin, smile!

Can we all be friends????????????????????????

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Bubbavet_rureel 2 years, 4 months ago

People we're getting off task here, we beat this horse enough, however, remember, I will be looking over your shoulders so speak the facts and stay away from speculation, which is an economic term. Speculation is the reason for the high gas prices!!

Finally, we have all agreed to be friends inspite of our mixed opinions, which are valued on my end.

Goodnight Friends!!!

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MRKIA 2 years, 4 months ago

OK, EVERYONE HAS HAD THEIR SAY, AND AS USUAL WE'RE BACK TO SQUARE ONE. NOW I REPEAT: WHY HAS'NT DCSS USED THE PORTABLES AT THE OVERCROWED SCHOOLS? HEYYYY WHERE DID EVERYBODY GO???

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CJ_Fan 2 years, 4 months ago

That would make sense. But as a wise man once said

Common Sense is like deodorant those that need it most don’t use it.

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Bubbavet_rureel 2 years, 4 months ago

MRKIA,

You have several options:

  1. Call the administration and ask.
  2. Get on the school board agenda.
  3. Remain in the speculation environment.
  4. Continuing being my friend.

Bubbavet_rureel

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Sister_Ruby 2 years, 4 months ago

Herald......is it possible to keep the Feebly Minded (such as bubbavet_rureel) from dominating the Comments? I mean, is the Phoebe 8th Floor full to capacity so that he/she is loose on Society? If that true, then God Help Us and also Smith and Wesson!!

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CJ_Fan 2 years, 4 months ago

Sister they are just being good Dumb-ocrats and practicing their logic spinning. They just want to be prepared to spin any Fact into nonsense as it gets closer to November. They must protect their Leader in Chief at any cost including the TRUTH.

Besides I think they are fun to watch considering they only have one Master's brain doing all their thinking. They repeat ^*#@ so well at times almost makes you believe they know what they are saying. But then again you can train a parrot to talk too.

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Bubbavet_rureel 2 years, 4 months ago

CJ,

Did you do your research? Remember check with the source for informed information. You asked a question about portables, I gave you the information on where to get the answer, please use your friend resources to get your question answered. They is a strong word, we're all "Americans" this is a democratic society, which means people have a choice on whom to vote for, you have liberals, conservatives, and independents. Also, you have friend haters, can we be friends? I'm a parrot with a brain, and a voting card.

Please respect our vote, join me in the democratic process, no evidence -no crime. No intent - No crime, accussations - due process, which means you can face your accussers.

Today's Homework: Read the Georgia Fair Teacher's Dismisal Act, here goggle it, this will change your opinion on the accussed.

I'm prepared to respon to your comments unitl you get tired, try me.

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Citizen_A 2 years, 4 months ago

Again...spell check sweetie....it's Dismissal...and Google....

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Bubbavet_rureel 2 years, 4 months ago

Sister_Ruby,

I hear you, however, this service is not offered at the hospital you mentioned anymore. You need to get your fact staight! However, we can still be friends.

The issue has been settle, speculation at best, until the evidence are in the right hands, feel free to keep talking in unfounded friends talk.

Straying from the subject is a concern, remember no cross no crown, read the Bible more.

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Citizen_A 2 years, 4 months ago

You go girl... If only he would realize we can't "be firends" when he dominates conversations and won't let you get a word in edge wise.

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bubbasmithredneck 2 years, 4 months ago

Wooooo Weeeeeee.......you are the man Bubbavet!!!!! SICK EM!!!!

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MRKIA 2 years, 4 months ago

WHEN ALL IS SAID AND DONE SOME TEACHERS WILL GET FIRED AND SOME MIGHT FACE JAIL TIME AND HAVE THEIR CREDENTIALS REVOKED AND RIGHTFULLY SO. JUST SIT TIGHT, SOMEBODY'S GOING TO PAY THEN THE ISSUE WILL BE SETTLED.

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Bubbavet_rureel 2 years, 4 months ago

Okay, we will see about that. Some will go back to work, nothing from nothing leaves back to work.

Last word.

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Abytaxpayer 2 years, 4 months ago

BUBBA...Sorry to butt in but I agree your statement should be the last words we post here on this subject. I think it has been proven on both sides 1 is happy with the status quo and the other side is certainly not happy with the status quo, I would like to ask both parties to seriously participate in another discussion but please lets both sides keep it serious. Click link below.

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tywebb 2 years, 4 months ago

bubbavet_rureel IS #34. and redneckbubba is either lloyd OR a board member....just cheering on from the sideline, but not having anything important to add.

34.....IF it's just "accusations and speculation", then why are they all sitting over at an old school building not teaching?

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Bubbavet_rureel 2 years, 4 months ago

tywebb - Public Opinion & Politics. Accusations made - precautions are taken. Speculation maybe they are guilty, maybe they are innocent.

Fact 1 - We cannot throw them under the bus - due process Fact 2 - There is always three sides to every story Fact 3 - You are not perfect

tywebb, you must educate yourself on the facts, the system is waiting on the evidence, so are the accussed lawyers, they have lawyered up for constitutional protection.

We're in the speculation mode at best.

School over, have to work!!

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tywebb 2 years, 4 months ago

since i don't teach in the system any more, thank goodness, i admit i don't know ALL of the facts. But i'm sure you don't either. so, when the state came down and did their investigation and gathered evidence to figure out who exactly was involved....was that evidence just speculation evidence? or was it factual evidence? please enlighten me

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AlbPieMaster 2 years, 4 months ago

  1. Fact 1 The ones that are guilty and they know it are stalling to stay on payroll and see if a slick lawyer can get them a slap on the wrist and not fired.
  2. Fact 2 Used to be a story only had two sides true or false now we have a third side “How much can I get away with”
  3. Fact 3 I have not seen anyone say they are perfect (while some do act holier than thou) I have seen several say as a good example for our kids that All employees of DCSS should have Integrity while others dismiss that call and answer by claiming they are not convicts yet.

There is no speculation some teachers are guilty or was the State just wasting time. There is speculation some may Not be guilty. The real issue is the GOOD Teachers in DCSS are being disrespected by the public because a select few have decided to see just how much they can steal from our kids and get away with it. And Velvet is not helping either, makes it look like DCSS is overrun with thieves when it is only a few who have no self-pride or Integrity.....Used to be Teachers were Good examples for our children, now a select few are proving laws don't matter if you have no integrity.

Defend all you want but they are destroying our children’s minds

Without good Schools when our kids get Out won't Work for more than min. wage.

What kind of FRIEND to our kids is that?

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Bubbavet_rureel 2 years, 4 months ago

Point made! let's wait for the ending.

Bubbavet_rureel

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CJ_Fan 2 years, 4 months ago

Point is "how much can we get away with" not is it worth my self respect, Dignity and Integrity. So yep lets see what they sold they soul for.

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CJ_Fan 2 years, 4 months ago

OOps another spell check malfunction!!!!!!!!

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CJ_Fan 2 years, 4 months ago

Is it just me or has anyone else noticed the three mediocre musketeers are missing. They feel they have WON and their dreams of mediocrity have been fulfilled. So Now I’m guessing they have no need to rail against those who had desired Quality.

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Bubbavet_rureel 2 years, 4 months ago

CJ,

I hear you, speculation at best! My opinion is only my opinion. Your opinion is your opinion, I respect your's and i hope you respect mine.

I'm prepared to keep this discussion open, try me.

Be patient, and watch God work!

No weapon formed in South Gerorgia shall prosper!

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CJ_Fan 2 years, 4 months ago

Bub this is your best reply...Take another nap.

How is it speculation when you and your crew repeatedly say you are content with the Statius quo and you will continue to prove it by voting the same people back into control of the DCSS Board. All you have done is criticized others for speaking out against allowing our schools to be run into the ground. If you could quit defending the board because of whatever reason you have and open your eyes you just might realize there are others who are better qualified to run the Board that you could like just as well. But to continue supporting a failed Board with no Integrity just because others don’t is madness. Would you stand by and watch a drunken friend continue to drive around your neighborhood smashing into cars, light poles and houses after you saw him hit the first or even the second car. At what point do you say that guy must be a danger to my neighborhood or are you just one to sit on his porch and yell at the people who are trying to stop him, “Just give him time he will sober up and his driving will improve”.
Yes you are prepared to keep this deployable system propped up while you have your “discussion” against a call for IMPROVEMENT. You very good at defending guilty people who have not had a day in court but you show no outrage that they could even be suspected of such actions. And again from your chair on the porch you say sit back relax be patient watch God work. God helps those who help themselves. And your last statement is so spot on! No weapon formed in South Gerorgia (Georgia) shall prosper! That you got right sir with the education a lot of kids get in DCSS they can’t form much of anything but a line at social offices.

3in78…. 34 these are all good numbers to you and you defend them. Too bad you and your crew members weren’t jocks especially the one who calls himself Coach. At least the dumbest jocks knows the goal is to be number 1 not 34 or 78. Striving to be mediocre you have succeeded now sit back in your rocking chair and allow others to reach for the sky..

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Bubbavet_rureel 2 years, 4 months ago

CJ'

Keep up the great work! Rome was no built overnight, it will take some time pal!

Your'e interupting a good discussion I', having with a VIP, Good luck.

Bubbavet_rureel

Typing on this laptop is a challenge.

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CJ_Fan 2 years, 4 months ago

So correct Rome was built by those who got off their azz and worked to build for a better tomorrow NOT those who sat and claimed it will get better just WAIT.

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AlbPieMaster 2 years, 4 months ago

So Bubba gets to decide who is a VIP and who is not worthy of his time. Sorry CJ I think young open minds scare him. But being the old lady i am I am going to repeat myself.

I am Positive while some are sitting and waiting on a miracle.

Albany and Dougherty are in their fourth consecutive years of NI (Needs Improvement) while Monroe is in its second year.

Maybe it is time to get off a bended knee and listen to the other voices that are speaking to you. They just might be the guidance from God you have been praying for. Maybe God is trying to show you the error in your ways and thinking....What gives you the right to judge a messenger that God has sent to you? Or do you believe your God only thinks as you do so any other voice besides yours is the devil?

Maybe if you were not so “Holier than Thou” you could hear God speaking to you.

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Bubbavet_rureel 2 years, 4 months ago

Okay, I hear you guys loud and clear, let's come up with a positive solution, let's advocate to keep the current people in place, let's meet with them at the next school board meeting and offer SMART suggestions:

S- Specific ways to improve and get better M- Measurable objectives A- Attainable objectives R- Realalistic objectives T- Timeline for objectives

We can do it, if we work together, remember people will not take us serious if we do not work smart. You guys are right, let's get off our fannies and make a difference in the community, we need God, Courage,Temperance, and faith - in our leaders. They were put in place, now let's hold them accountable.

I'm getting a call from someone very important, I'll follow up on your commitment comments.

Friend - Bubbavet_rureel

100 comments - wow!!!!

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tywebb 2 years, 4 months ago

i don't like the whole mindset of things have to get worse before they get better! why? some of theses board members have been there for a long time and things haven't changed. let's vote in new ones. I will not advocate to keep current people in place who can't handle the job!

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Bubbavet_rureel 2 years, 4 months ago

Ok, but we must educate ourselves and do our part. The real interest is the children, why, because the are the leaders of tomorrow! Talking negative verses positive will yield negative results, we must ask how can I make this better. You know what you have in office, simply hold them accountable, and if they are not holding up to the majority of the community expectations you remove them by voting for someone who will.

Lastly: Some Americians are strong individualists who believe in limited government ie.. rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer, however, to bring it home, if we do not find common ground, this will just be another unchanged opinion.

Change may not fix a problem that should be handled in the Home, Church, and Community. We must handle they community part, educated the home members, and pray for the church members.

Bubbavet_rureel

Keep it comming!!

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tywebb 2 years, 4 months ago

limited gov't doesn't mean rich get richer and poor get poorer, but that's what you dummycrats can keep believing if it makes you feel better. i guess you need a scapegoat for everything, huh?

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Sister_Ruby 2 years, 4 months ago

Bubbavet_rureel (whateverthehell that represents) is smoking some super quadruple grade Seven for Heaven stuff straight from Kenya (and we all know how good that stuff from Kenya is......at least that's how the folks from Kenya tell it.............) so we just gotta humor his dumb ASS until he drifts back off to Neverland.

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Bubbavet_rureel 2 years, 4 months ago

Thanks Sister_Ruby, I respect your opinion! I cant win unless you win. I'm a true leader, what are you? Can we be friends?

Bubbavet_rureel

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MRKIA 2 years, 4 months ago

SHUT THIS POST DOWN / OLD NEWS

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