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Squawk of the Day, March 29, 2012

"Where were all of these protesters when the black man in Albany randomly picked a white youth at the car wash in East Albany and killed him for absolutely no reason. Was that a hate crime?"

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Sally_O 2 years, 8 months ago

No, not by the Blacks standards. Now had the victim been black and the shooter white, Yo man Jesse would have caught the first plane to Albany spreading his words of hate.

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fullcourtpress 2 years, 8 months ago

that is the craziest comment ever....yes that was a hate crime.....where were the white people protesting?

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Sally_O 2 years, 8 months ago

White people don't march and protest over every detail. But a black person gets killed and a marching they will go. Not a crrazy comment at all, just telling it like it is. I guess you just don't like the truth do ya?

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thelight 2 years, 8 months ago

The difference is the black man was arrested and brought to justice.

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VSU 2 years, 8 months ago

If there was any evidence that Zimmerman did it, he would have been arrested. Show us the evidence, I am assuming you was an eyewitness and saw everything since you seem to know the whole story.

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VSU 2 years, 8 months ago

And why? Because he was proven guilty and the evidence proved that. So far there is no evidence to prove Zimmerman guilty. If they come up with eyewittnesses and evidence, then I am sure he will be found guilty, but until then there is nothing to do but wait.

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Outtahere 2 years, 8 months ago

It's amusing how you think your words are "the truth". "Just telling it like it is", as you say! Here's a question, when was the last time black people got together and marched for a cause they saw fit? Your statement would have people believe this goes on all the time. It's not that we don't like "the truth"; we just don't like self-righteous people who make ridiculous comments.

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VSU 2 years, 8 months ago

Like the ones you just made!

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Justice4Moma 2 years, 8 months ago

First and foremost,my prayers go out to the Mom and Dad of Trayvon.This is where all this started.I know what i say here will be taken wrong by some.But i have to say what i feel.Trayvon was shot and killed,his Mother would like to know the why,how,to try and get some closer.I understand this.I do think that it has gotten out of control,but not her fought.She is hurting,and i dont think she really wanted this to be about white and black.Most people know there are more than 2 races in this world.Yet some like to act as there are only 2.Black or White.If you are not black then you must be white.That is so wrong.Just look at Obama,our first African American Pres.Where he is not!He is our first BI-Racial Pres.And people of all walks of life do not want to admit this.But he can not hide this.And why should he? In the Bible it tells us to Honor our Mother and Father,it does not say what color they may be nor how much money they may have,or have not. My Mom and Dad slpit up when i was 18 months old.My Grand parents raised me,not so diffrent from what happens today with kids.But i think i turned out to be a very good person.I am not perfect,nor is anyone else in this world. But for all the people making all this worse than what it has to be is wrong.Dont fight against one another.Instead,join as one,and change the laws.Make our elected officals earn the money they get paid.They are the ones who make these laws,we just have to follow them.I dont know what happened that day with Trayvon,and Zimmerman.What i do know is alot of people have made this about them,(the Panthers,and the REV.)This is not about them,it is about a Child whos life has been cut short,and a man who should have done alot of things diffrent,but did not.But that is for the courts to Judge.For someone to take up money to capture ANYONE DEAD or Alive is wrong.You are not GOD.And it is wrong.All of us need to come together,and ask GOD to take over.He will never forsake us.The truth will come out.But please dont make this about race.It is about bad laws.And we should all stand together and try and change them.Hatered comes in all colors.But peace comes in only one race,The Human race.

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Shinedownfan 2 years, 8 months ago

"...and a man who should have done alot of things diffrent,but did not." Okay, this man you talk about was punched in the face and on the ground having his head continually bashed into the sidewalk... what would you do?

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dsgb19us 2 years, 8 months ago

Are you sure about that....why did it take a month to come up with that story??? Can you answer that? Idiot

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Shinedownfan 2 years, 8 months ago

You don't have to get ugly... Is that your nature? Alls you gotta do is open your eyes and watch the news, look at the news stories online or listen to the radio to hear that the guy calling out for help was Z-man, not Trayvon. Even Trayvon's dad said that wasn't his sons screams, and a friend of Z-man said anyone that knows him could tell the screams r from George. 911 tapes don't lie.

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PatrickY2K 2 years, 8 months ago

There is no proof that he was attacked. I haven't voiced an opinion on this becuase I wasn't there. I suggest more people do the same.

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Sally_O 2 years, 8 months ago

Then again who asked for your opinion? There's no proof Zimmerman shot him in cold blood either.

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Outtahere 2 years, 8 months ago

I'm curious; how are you sure that Zimmerman was punched in the face? Were you there? "Continually bashed into the sidewalk" Wow, that's a pretty descriptive statement for someone that lives in a different state!

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VSU 2 years, 8 months ago

How do you do Sally doesn't live in the state of Florida? How are you sure he wasn't punched in the face? Were you there? The EMT's did treat Zimmerman, if he didn't have any wounds there would be no need for treatment. I am wondering what state you are in...state of mind that is.

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VSU 2 years, 8 months ago

@ JusticefMoma...I agree with most of what you said, but it is not a bad law. Remember, guns don't kill people, the person pulling the trigger is what kills people. A person should have the right to defend themselves if they are in danger, but is a person less dead if they are killed by a knife, sledgehammer, or any other type of weapon? I really don't know who did what, I was not there, but in two different sceneros, the whole thing could have been avoided. 1 - If Zimmerman had not pursued Martin it could have been avoided. If he felt Martin looked suspicious walking in the neighborhood, let the police determine if he is in the wrong, don't play the role of a polceman. 2 - If Martin did indeed attack Zimmerman, he could have simply walked away and ignored Zimmerman and things might have been okay. I just don't find it feasible that Zimmerman would just up and shoot Martin just because he was walking in the neighborhood. Perhaps in this situation using a gun might have been the wrong choice since Martin didn't have a gun with him, perhaps being a better fighter or learn the art of self defense to ward off attackers, but sometimes in a panic situation you act on instinct to survive.

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VSU 2 years, 8 months ago

With all that being said, apparently Zimmerman had been arrested back in 2005 with his mug shot, but don't know what he was arrested for.

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dsgb19us 2 years, 8 months ago

Idiots the guy was arrested....if he did it or not he was arrested....Zimmerman is walking free....He has gotten away with Murder so far....If it were the other way around the black man would be behind bars until the investigation is over....point blank period

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waltspecht 2 years, 8 months ago

What do you mean no ones perfect? You should have met my wife's other suitors according to my Mother in law? :)

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jglass 2 years, 8 months ago

Justice4Moma.......well said.

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scooby62 2 years, 8 months ago

All I'm going to say to Shinedownfan is, Were you there? I wasn't. I don't know for sure what went on any more than you do. Enough said.

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darnette0101 2 years, 8 months ago

Has anyone seen the news lately. There is a video of Zimmerman at the police station where he was taken right after the incident. There is no sign of blood, etc. on the man. Yet, the police and Zimmerman said he was beaten and bloody.

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VietVet1 2 years, 8 months ago

But didn't it say it was FOUR hours later? Fact is, we weren't there, and don't have all the facts. Should I rush in and offer a $1 Wanted Dead or Alive bounty on the Black Panther leader?

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tywebb 2 years, 8 months ago

To answer your second question........YES!!!!

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waltspecht 2 years, 8 months ago

Do you really believe the EMT's wouldn't have wiped the blood off his face when they treated him? Anytime I have seen them work on an individual, they have made a concerted effort to clean them up.

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Shinedownfan 2 years, 8 months ago

I'm sure the EMT's cleaned him up, wouldntyathink? He refused to go to the hospital, but they DID check him out... LOL! Walt we wrote this at the same time, I went back and edited this in...

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VSU 2 years, 8 months ago

I saw that story, but they did say the EMT's treated him and also the video was fuzzy so it was hard to see.

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dsgb19us 2 years, 8 months ago

The police made it a black or white thing when they did not arrest the man who killed the boy.....when that happened at the car wash the suppect was apprended and arrested....2 totally different situations....and Zimmerman is not even white...so all the whites that keep saying blacks don't say anything when their race commits a crime its because they don't have to because they gone lock the black man up regardless if he did it or not...

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Sally_O 2 years, 8 months ago

And you have the nerve to call other people idiots? Look at yourself.

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Shinedownfan 2 years, 8 months ago

Thanks, Sally... Someone had to say it...

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Outtahere 2 years, 8 months ago

And now Sally_O, look at yourself. You've got some nerve. This is coming from a person who thinks she is some truth speaker. You only provide your OPINION on this blog - nothing more!

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gotanyfacts 2 years, 8 months ago

Opinions, perceptions and hearsay are pretty much all any of us have for input. It's all that Jackson, Sharpton, Rep. Johnson, etc. have. We fail ourselves and our entire community when we become arrogant by judging the situation or the individuals without knowing the truth.

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VSU 2 years, 8 months ago

Outtahere, why don't you mind your own business and leave Sally alone, I noticed you made no comment about doofus above calling everybody idiots, guess that shows your prejudice.

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bubbasmithredneck 2 years, 8 months ago

Sally_O, I bet you think Trayvon deserved to be killed dont you?

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VSU 2 years, 8 months ago

I bet she thinks you deserve to be killed.

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ghostofkarelia 2 years, 8 months ago

Well, if Zimmerman had stayed in his car instead of harassing this kid, then he probably wouldn't have gotten beat up (which, BTW, isn't a justification for shooting a kid). He also didn't have to keep following him around harassing him, even though the dispatcher he was on the phone with told him to hold back and wait for the cops to get there. The "Stand Your Ground" law doesn't mean you can track someone down. Regardless, all the facts haven't come out, and some probably never will. It's already brought the worst from both sides (the conservatives trying to paint Martin as a thug & the black panthers putting a $10,000 bounty on Zimmerman). I will say this: Judging by that old mugshot photo, if Zimmerman was walking down the street in my neighborhood, he'd have the cops called on him. Also, Martin may have had a grill, tattoos, or been in trouble at school, but can someone please explain to me when those became capital crimes?

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TheBoss 2 years, 8 months ago

Obama said if I had a son he would look like Trayvon, Yep smoking pot just like Obama.

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Outtahere 2 years, 8 months ago

I wish self-righteousness was a crime because you would be in prison!!!!

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bubbavet 2 years, 8 months ago

Why haven't I seen a recent picture of the victim. They show the innocent outdated ones. All they want is money not justice. Remember the Duke rape case.

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fullcourtpress 2 years, 8 months ago

Divisive comments are the only things the Albany Herald puts in the paper....what happened to the white kid was wrong....suspect charged and arrested.....admit it people what happened to Mr Martin was wrong....regardless of color...the difference is when black people protest there is an issue....I wish people would see injustice as that....an injustice regardless of color.

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Sally_O 2 years, 8 months ago

Since when is defending yourself an injustice? I suppose if that thug kid had killed Zimmerman everything would be AOK.

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Outtahere 2 years, 8 months ago

Sally_O, maybe we should tell all the officials in Florida and anyone else working on the case to just give you a call since you know all the details! I mean who else better to ask that a truth speaker right? And calling a child that is now deceased a thug when you don't know him or his family just shows your true hateful colors. You don't know Zimmerman either but yet you get on this blog to defend him. People like you need mental help!!!

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VSU 2 years, 8 months ago

Darn Outtahere who died and made you boss? Why don't you just calm down and quit flapping your gums all over the place. You don't know that Trayvon kid either so how do you know he's innocent? Why not have the officials confer with you and go ahead and lock Zimmerman up since you know all the answers and haven't even heard all the questions yet. You sound like a basket case and I think you should be put in a straight jacket.

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VSU 2 years, 8 months ago

If Zimmerman is guilty then it was wrong and an injustice, but until they prove he is guilty, then there was no injustice.

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rock 2 years, 8 months ago

" the difference is when black people protest there is an issue" ????? It is always a perceived BLACK issue. It would not have mattered if zimmerman shot martin in the middle of times squares, during the New years celebration, with a million viewers, Zimmerman would be wrong because NO BLACK IS EVER WRONG in a non-black/black killing. During the Rodney King riots, a white man was pulled from his car, beaten with bricks on live TV and the black communiity ccelebrated, no marches for him, no sharpton/jacksons crusade NOTHING. Where is the black community outrage when 13 people were killed at Ft. Hood Texas, Where was Sharpton/jackson when the congress woman was shot and a little girl killed, not outrage present. So please do not try to tell us that blacks protest when they have an issue. Just say if its for the blacks we do care. Whites are not always wrong, and Blacks are not always thugs. But if it looks like BS and smells like BS. It is BS.

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DueRespect 2 years, 8 months ago

Plain and simple: THE GLOVE DIDN'T FIT !

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justme 2 years, 8 months ago

Most of you need to mind your bsiness and keep your thoughts to yourself. The kid got killed in Florida and ain't nobody yelling about the kids getting killed in Albany. What goes on in Forida is their business and what happens here in Albany should be ours. A good cleaning of our own house is in order and let the neighbors worry about theirs.

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Somebody 2 years, 8 months ago

I agree with you 100%, but then you have these clowns all over the country wearing these ridiculous Hoodies marching, chanting, raving, buying a bag of skittles and a can of tea as if that is suppose to mean anything. They even had some representative in Washington wearing a hoodie, how immature is that? An elected official acting like a young teenager. They need to chill out and let Florida handle the situation.

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VSU 2 years, 8 months ago

Yep it's Double standard time again. Isn't it odd that it is wrong for a white person to assume a person is innocent, but it's okay for a black person to rule a person guilty? Truth of the matter is no one was there so nobody really knows what the truth is. This reminds me of the OJ Simpson case (Who BTW still hasn't found the murderer of his wife Nicole, but I hear he's still looking hard everyday) This girl runs her mouth saying "How do you know he did it, was you there? Then again you could ask her the same question "How do you know he didn't do it, was you there?" You have Ottahere chastising Sally_O on every comment she made asking her that very same question...Well Sally, How do you know Zimmerman is innocent, you wasn't there" you can ask outtahere the same question "How do you know Zimmerman killed him in cold blood, how do you know that kid is an innocent victim? Do you know that kid personally? Were you there as an eye witness and saw the whole thing? if so, what are you waiting for? Call the Sanford police and state that you are a wittness. Everybody has a right to their opinion. If each individuals opinion is wrong then so be it. Don't say squawker X is wrong if you don't have any concrete evidence to back your story up. I still personally don't see any motive as to why Zimmerman would shoot him for no reason, but then again I don't know him or what was going on in his mind, maybe he lost his mind, I don't know, but until he confesses or they have outstanding evidence that he did it, he is innocent until proven guilty.

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Outtahere 2 years, 8 months ago

Well VSU, here's a little information that you don't know. I work for the City of Sanford AND I live here, so yeah I guess you could say I know a little more than others may know. And I wasn't aware that disagreeing with someone is chastising them. Sally_O is a big girl and she can take up for herself. As YOU metioned there is a lot YOU don't know, so here's a suggestion: quit accusing me of having a double standard!!! Also, you mentioned I "run my mouth" which is SO VERY HYPCRITICAL for you to say since you are on here WAY more than me offering up your OPINION!! Why don't you stop while you are ahead - unless you don't mind showing your real clueless colors!!

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Somebody 2 years, 8 months ago

I think you are the one who doesn't have a clue.

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Sally_O 2 years, 8 months ago

But did you see the shooting? You could live next door to Zimmerman, but unless you saw the incident you really can't say you know what happened, and if you say you do than you are lying. It's a free country, I am free to comment anywhere I want. You don't like what I say then don't read it. And you are an example of double standards. You make your own opinions but don't think nobody else has the right to voice their opinions. As far as VSU is concerned, he does not need to stop until he decides to stop So put that in your crack pipe and smoke it.

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albanyherald1 2 years, 8 months ago

I think everybody on this blog that "thinks" they "know" what happened and are not afraid to say it are all dumb, whether its the ones fighting for Zimmerman or Martin. Its been said on here numerous times....no one knows what truly happened. But then again, that is what a trial is for. Let the police and officials do their jobs. We do not have all the facts, that is their job to have those. The media is only releasing bits and pieces. Don't pick sides based on color. The truth will come out....just be patient and quiet!

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tywebb 2 years, 8 months ago

thanks to the media, the "rev", Al "tawana brawley" sharpton, spike, the black panthers, etc..........Sides have already been picked based SOLELY on color!

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