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Squawk of the day - Oct. 4, 2012

"Seriously, what is holding Darton back from becoming a four-year university? And don't tell me that ASU won't let them, because that is wrong."

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Sister_Ruby 1 year, 12 months ago

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Useless.

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chinaberry25 1 year, 12 months ago

3 things, Money, money, money. Unless you can offer courses that are useful, like math education, then you are duplicating services of ASU and GSW. Troy State and Lagrange College offer all of the same. Offer degrees that are needed in this area like forestry, physical therapy, lab tech. But if you plan on going the easy route and BS courses for psychology, business, accounting you are diluting the pool.

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Sherwood_Eagle_Alum 1 year, 12 months ago

If the school went to a four year university would they not be able to offer such? I would think that there are limited options for a community college.

I'm sorry but what student would seriously consider going to a four year school which has lost it's accreditation on more than one occasion, and is in a dangerous part of town? I'm sure some of you went to ASU twenty or thirty years ago, but things are different now. ASU is not viable option for students.

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bubbasmithredneck 1 year, 12 months ago

Who cares? Darton has a weak math department that relies on computer programs to teach the students instead of teachers. They refer to it as the "lab". All of the good Math teachers left Darton and moved on to bigger and better schools. Darton is in the right place as a two year school. They arent much better than Albany Tech.

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ObjectiveEyes 1 year, 12 months ago

Dang, Bubba, mark it down. We agree on something. I have a kid at Darton. He has been absolutely underwhelmed by them...both academically and administratively.

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USTPC 1 year, 12 months ago

ASU isn't much better than Darton, either. Every graduate from ASU I hired struggled with the job they were hired to do even though they graduated with a B average or better.

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Jimboob 1 year, 12 months ago

Hire a veteran... They know how to get jobs done. On time, under budget.

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MRKIA 1 year, 12 months ago

WE WILL ALWAYS HAVE A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF THE POPULATION WHOSE ABILITIES ARE LIMITED TO MANUAL LABOR OR MANUAL DEXTERITY. A TRUE SKILLED TECHNICIAN IN ALMOST ANY IF NOT ALL FIELDS REQUIRING DIAGNOSIS OR A HIGH DEGREE OF LOGIC ARE YEARS IN THE MAKING. NOT EVERYONE HAS THE MENTAL ACUITY TO MAKE THE TRANSITION FROM CLASSROOM TO REAL WORLD.

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Sherwood_Eagle_Alum 1 year, 12 months ago

If the good teachers left, then wouldn't Darton being a university lure good ones to come aboard? It seems common sense that someone with a doctorate in a subject matter would relocate across the nation to teach at a university rather than a community college?

I bring up relocating because i still remember all of my college professors received their degrees from universities across the nation. Job seekers scour the job market nationwide to find a position.

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Francis 1 year, 12 months ago

Most of Albany Tech's students are career students that are using financial PELL and student loans to supplement their income.

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Sherwood_Eagle_Alum 1 year, 12 months ago

If Darton were to go to a four year program would they not receive more funding, thus allowing expansion of current course/degree offerings? By default would this not attract more qualified teachers? I am not an educator, but would someone not make more money teaching at a university than at a community college?

I took a few summer courses years ago, and the only thing that made it obvious that this was a community college was the quality of students in the classes. I took an economics course, accounting course, and college algebra. These courses seemed to be on par with similar courses I took at the university from which I received my degree.

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wdklewitzf4 1 year, 12 months ago

Given the quality of education in Dougherty County, Darton needs to go to a 4yr school so local students can graduate with a 2yr degree.

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bubbasmithredneck 1 year, 12 months ago

Darton reminds of a "cute dummy"......very nice looking on the outside, and no brains on the inside"......all "blonde" jokes work here!!!

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erudite 1 year, 12 months ago

Not that simple. To offer BA's, you need PhD's to teach; because it is a two year school right now, it can't have a lot of PhD's on campus. The programs have to be started by people who, if they want to stay, must now earn a PhD. Because they teach/work full time, they cannot go to school to earn a PhD! Online PhD's are Charmin.
These are not Darton rules, these are Board of Regents rules. The Board is made up of ALL business men (1 women, 1 nonwhite male); not an educator among them. ATC falls under the DTAE and as very different rules; people would be better served to attend there as one can learn a trade. ASU is an HBSC and also as different rules. Darton gets no more money if they offer BA's and BS's; that is driven by enrollment. Currently, the summer expenses for classes are not covered by the state budget; Darton as to pay for itself in the summer. Using the Math labs is out of context; those labs are for the 75% (!) of incoming students who cannot score high enough on placement exams to take algebra right away. So Darton has to add one Baccalaureate degree at a time; that will not happen overnight. Oh yeah, and then there are the dorms that would need to be built.

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bubbasmithredneck 1 year, 12 months ago

75% of the students cant pass the placement exams is bad enough, but to put them in front of a computer is even worse. They need real instructors who are good in Math to teach them......NO EXCUSE!!

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MRKIA 1 year, 12 months ago

GREAT POINT. THIS PROBLEM NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED AT PUBLIC SCHOOL LEVEL.

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Sherwood_Eagle_Alum 1 year, 11 months ago

If you can't pass a placement exam for a community college then you should find a technical school to attend.

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