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Squawk of the Day - Oct. 29, 2012

People who leave a gun in their car and leave it unlocked should be charged with a crime.

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VSU 2 years, 1 month ago

At least charged with stupidity!

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waltspecht 2 years, 1 month ago

Then people that flaunt their wealth should be jailed. How about those that still leave the keys in their car, or their shed or garage unlocked. Don't forget those that leave a lawnmoyer without chaining it to a tree. Deal with the problem. It isn't someone leaving something out in the open, it is the Society that has taught individuals it is OK to take things that aren't theirs. It is the Society that has tollerated these thefts to the point it is how people earn a living. It is the lack of a successful means of punishment when individuals are caught, because they will certainly do it again. Often to pay their Lawyer of Probation Officer. Find these folks meaningful work, with a living wage and some of the problem will be helped.

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Sherwood_Eagle_Alum 2 years, 1 month ago

"Deal with the Problem."

Are you kidding me?!

I am against gun control, however, gun owners must act in a responsible manner. To leave a weapon, loaded or not, in an unlocked vehicle is extremely irresponsible. Would you let your young child or grandchild cross a busy intersection alone?

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waltspecht 2 years, 1 month ago

No, but I wouldn't want to think someone that did would be open to prosecution. We actually walked to school across intersections in New York City. Both my Parents had to work, and couldn't accompany us. Never was a problem. Do you really believe the government needed to be involved it that? Yes I think it is irresponsible to leave a gun in the open, but in the not too distant past Rifle Racks hung in every Pickup Truck and most had firearms in them. I can remember seeing them at the Mall with the windows open and no one thought it was their job to steal the firearms. Something has gone bad wrong with Law and Enforcement over the years that these folks think Shoplifting and vehical burglery are acceptable. Waht has changed?

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Sherwood_Eagle_Alum 2 years, 1 month ago

Ok, you had me worried for a little bit. I also remember seeing hunting rifles displayed in the back window of pickup trucks. That too was irresponsible.

I think that parents letting their kids be exposed to the constant violence in music, movies, video games and tv shows has caused this mess we are in. All of these are desensitizing youth to the dangers of guns and the harm they can cause to others.

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Sister_Ruby 2 years, 1 month ago

In full agreement with you SEA, but when gun CRIMES are done, folks cry to the heavens for gun control. Meanwhile Hollywood pumps out voilent and vile films by the hundreds each month and nobody says a mumbling word.

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stc1993 2 years, 1 month ago

walt, a lot of them wouldn't work in a pie eating factory if it meant getting out of bed & being on time.

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chinaberry25 2 years, 1 month ago

VSU, you said all. Nothing I can add, but not as stupid as the person complaining. We have bigger fish to fry in this world. Maybe the election will take care of a lot of the problem.

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RedEric 2 years, 1 month ago

Animals steal from each other. You see that all the time. Animals will steal from pack members. Dogs will steal food from another dog even though their food dish is full. They don't necessarily steal because they need. They steal because it is instinctive. Theft without want or survival need is prevalent in a society that is breaking down. I believe lying, lying for no reason is a prelude to instinct theft. How many people that you know are telling the truth all of the time? Front row members of churches lie. Well there is one commandment down, I might as well try a couple more.

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FlunkyMonkey 2 years, 1 month ago

I agree squawker. To leave a gun in an unlocked car is reckless conduct at the least.

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fcarroll 2 years, 1 month ago

Guess we should take the steering wheel, stero, seats and tires with us when we park our car. I agree with all that waltspecht with everything except where it is stated find these folks meaningful work. I went to work at 14 and retired at 60 and no one ever found job for me. They have never worked at anything harder than taking what does not belong to them. And RedEric if members of a church lies, then they are not true christians. Also christians are not perfect, just striving to be more christ like.

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VSU 2 years, 1 month ago

I think the point the squawker is making is that with them being irresponsible in leaving their gun in the car, it's just a free gun for the criminals on the street to have. Don't we have enough guns on the streets by not giving it to them for free? It doesn't matter whether you have the right to leave it in there or not, the criminals don't care about your rights. If they did they would not be burglarizing your car in the first place. You might as well stick a sign on the window saying "Free Gun Help Yourself".

Finding people meaningful work will not stop anything. There are gang members out there working but they still go out and commit crimes. Pro Athletes and movie celebrities have been arrested for shoplifting with all the money they make.

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Sherwood_Eagle_Alum 2 years, 1 month ago

FCarroll, are YOU kidding me? I don't even know where to start with your statements. My mouth is just hanging open in disbelief...

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fcarroll 2 years, 1 month ago

Mine has dropped after reading your also Sherwood

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Bulldawg 2 years, 1 month ago

GA law states that a person's car is an exstension of their home. It is stupid to leave a gun in an unlocked car. However, per the state law, it is the person's own business if they leave their gun in an unlocked car. People are not required by GA law to keep their guns secured by safe or trigger lock in their home. They are also not required to keep their gun secured in their car.

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erudite 2 years, 1 month ago

small government or intrusive government at local, state and federal levels? you decide.

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Kenny36 2 years, 1 month ago

Nobody has the right to go into my car, locked or unlocked.

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VSU 2 years, 1 month ago

Criminals don't care about your rights.

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Kenny36 2 years, 1 month ago

Got my right to defend what's mine.

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VSU 2 years, 1 month ago

Didn't say that you didn't, just said criminals don't care about people's rights. I wish that they did, but they don't.

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bigbob 2 years, 1 month ago

Their just supplying the Albany thugs with guns like Obumma did the Mexican drug cartell.

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GG126 2 years, 1 month ago

Would it surprise you to know that some of those so-called criminals and thugs are residents of your nice neighborhoods, your neighbor's teens, looking for money to buy drugs or have just to have some 'fun'?

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Tonto 2 years, 1 month ago

Reckon the same could be said of their wallet, or smart phone, Maybe the registration and insurance cards in the glove box that enable identity theft. Don't think anyone deliberately leaves things to be stolen. Mistakes happen. You seem more concerned about punishing someone who did nothing illegal than the ones who did the stealing. By your definition if I don't remeber to lock my back door when I go to the grocery store and someone enters, takes whatever they want to pawn and buy drugs I am the criminal not the thief who I must have "tempted beyond reason" to commit the crime. What a crock, just another attempt to not hold the right folks accountable. I guess the person who gets beat down for trying to hold on to thier wallet or purse in the street is at fault for looking like they could afford to "give it up" and greedily held on to their own property.

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alleebrin 2 years, 1 month ago

Geez, there's one or four in every discussion - will argue with a signpost, just for the sake of argument!!

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VSU 2 years, 1 month ago

Yeah right, man gets killed by a wallet left in his car.

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fcarroll 2 years, 1 month ago

You said a mouthful Tonto and i could not agree more with anything you just stated, i am surprised no one has lost their jaws after reading your post. Good job.

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Bulldawg 2 years, 1 month ago

All you have to do is obtain a concealed carry permit, if your able, and carry the gun on your person. I only have my gun in my car when I am in it. Simple solution.

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Sherwood_Eagle_Alum 2 years, 1 month ago

The squawk isn't about whether you should be able to carry a gun with you in public or keep in in your vehicle. He or she is pointing out a gross negligence in leaving a weapon in an unlocked vehicle.

Guns are designed and made to kill. Whether it is a hunting rifle, assault rifle, sniper rifle, or a simple handgun, they are deadly in the wrong hands. They are made to eliminate a target. With that being said, why you leave something like that unsecured?

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RedEric 2 years, 1 month ago

I believe what you and others are saying is that the person who left a gun in an unlocked vehicle should be held personally responsible for the act. I also believe you and others are saying is that we, as a society, cannot hold the person who committed the crime personally responsible. I believe that.

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Sherwood_Eagle_Alum 2 years, 1 month ago

The person who commits the act of violence is responsible for his or her own actions. If someone leaves a gun in an unlocked vehicle and someone sees it and steals it, then they share some of the blame.

How about this. If you choose to keep a gun in your vehicle, then you should keep it locked at all times and not in plain sight. How hard is that?

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VSU 2 years, 1 month ago

Why make it possible for the wrong people to get easy access to your gun? Plain & simple!

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fcarroll 2 years, 1 month ago

Mr.Sherwood, it is not the gun that kills but the person behind the gun, guess this makes your jaws drop also.

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VSU 2 years, 1 month ago

But if someone gets access to that gun, they might just use it. Perhaps if they were not able to get the gun, the gun would not be available to use.

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Sherwood_Eagle_Alum 2 years, 1 month ago

Did you come up with that by yourself? I'm not going to lie (I wouldn't want to NOT be a true Christian) I would like the idiot population thinned out a bit, however this is not the way.

If there was something you could do to potentially prevent someone from getting their hands on a weapon and committing a violent crime, why not do it?

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VSU 2 years, 1 month ago

One day a young child will go into an unlocked car and find the gun and lord only knows what tragedy could happen from that point. Many of children have gotten shot and killed either by playing with a loaded gun or shot by another child playing with a loaded gun. This happened in Lee County recently. I too believe people have the right to own guns, but they need to be responsible. These are not water pistols laying around.

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Tonto 2 years, 1 month ago

Why VSU, is a youg child rumbleing around in someone else's unlocked car? The question was not about anything other than someone suggesting it is a crime to leave your property in your car unlocked...just as if it was your house, or in your pocket, or perhaps in your place of buisness, and then sayiing it was your fault that a crime was commited with the gun: giving it to the thugs. If they steal a gun from my unlocked home am I criminal then as well? How about if they steal my bow, a hunting knife, shotgun perhaps? If the keys are left in the car and "some young child" decides to drive off off and hit someone is that a crime for the car owner? The topic was about making it criminal to possess property lawfully and be liable/procecuted if someone stole it. No one ever suggested it was OK for children to play with firearms. If it is the "gun" thing you are hung up on, how about we say the same thing for anyone who leaves their medication in their car, that apparently some young child will rumble thru........

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Sherwood_Eagle_Alum 2 years, 1 month ago

"The topic was about making it criminal to possess property lawfully and be liable/prosecuted if someone stole it."

No, that wasn't the topic.The topic was about someone leaving a gun in an unlocked car. There is a big difference between the two. The difference is responsibility.

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Tonto 2 years, 1 month ago

You are trying to make that the topic. A car is private property whether locked or unlocked. It is not a crime to leave your car unlocked. it is not a crime to own a gun. it is not a crime to have YOUR gun in YOUR car.

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VSU 2 years, 1 month ago

But it is still stupid to leave your car unlocked for someone else to get access to that gun that they could use to commit a crime. That gun is doing you no good if it ends up in the wrong hands.

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Sherwood_Eagle_Alum 2 years, 1 month ago

"People who leave a gun in their car and leave it unlocked should be charged with a crime." -Squawk of the Day - Oct. 29, 2012

Did you even read the squawk? If you could do something that makes the world a safer place, why would you not do it?

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VSU 2 years, 1 month ago

Why VSU, is a young child rumbling around in someone else's unlocked car?

It doesn't have to be someone else's car, it could be his mom or dad's car. Duh!

Why was a child able to get a gun out of the closet that shot his little sister? Carelessness

Why was a child able to get a gun out of the dresser drawer that shot his brother? Carelessness

Why was a child left in the car at the grocery store and someone came and stole the car and kidnapped the child? Carelessness

Why was the gun stolen from Mr. jones car? Because he was stupid enough to leave it in there with the doors unlocked.

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VSU 2 years, 1 month ago

Street Thug : Here I am roaming the neighborhood looking in cars and see if I can finds me something.

Careless Residence drives up the yard....I should take my gun out of the car but I am only going to be a few minutes. Goes inside house!

Street Thug : Well! Well! What do we have here? Bossman left his car unlocked...I knows that sucker gots something of value in here. Man look at this, I hits the jackpot, a gun and it loaded too. I can robs plenty of peoples with this piece. man, this man a fool, but a generous fool Ha Ha....Walks off waving at the house...thanks bossman, pleasure doin bisness wit you.

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GG126 2 years, 1 month ago

Street Thug OR maybe your Neighbor or Neighbor's teen???

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